More than 900 police officers in Britain have criminal records clicky
I'm astonished by this. Burglary, robbery..! Shouldn't they be made to leave the force?
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And you did nothing wrong as a lad?
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........Shouldn't they be made to leave the force?
If they were committed while serving in the force, yes.
But otherwise, no.
Simple.
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Doing something wrong as a lad is far from what some of theses people have done. In what world does having robbed or burgled someone make you suitable to uphold the law?
I'm talking about what is right, not what the rules say.
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OP: so you believe:
No one is capable of rehabilitation?
Existing punishments for crimes are not enough?
Criminals should get further arbitrary punishments like never being allowed to serve in the force, except you've not thought this out at all, it only occurs to you when you are outraged over your Daily Fail?
Thank **** you're not (and never will be) a politician.
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Yeah robbery is a bit more than a mistake as a lad! Although I support employing some skilled burglars to assist the police with techniques etc.
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OP- If your not willing to accept that people can change, then any further discussion on the subject is pointless.
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In what world does having robbed or burgled someone make you suitable to uphold the law?
In a world that believes in rehabilitation. IMO someone who has turned their life around would potentially have a far greater enthusiasm and understanding of the requirements of the job than some middle class cosseted snob who believes they are superior to the General public.
Of course as above, crimes committed while in the force should bring about dismissal, but even then there is possible room for manoeuvre.
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Fishing without a license, failure to return library book blah blah.
Typical, something out of nowt reportingPosted 4 months ago # -
duntstick, duntmatter - how about duntcare?
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I'd prefer duntbovver
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I know it's not in the OP's spirit of the thread, but here's a bit of background info for perspective:
from OP's Indy article:
The Metropolitan Police, Britain's largest force, came out on top with 356 officers and 41 PCSOs with convictions
from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Service
At the end of October 2011, the MPS employed 48,661 (full-time) personnel...
So < 1%....and the crimes are:
Most of the convictions are for traffic offences such as speeding and drink-driving, but the records also include an officer in South Yorkshire was convicted of fishing without a licence (sic).
Home Office guidelines issued in 2003 say police officers should have "proven integrity" because they are vulnerable to pressure from criminals to reveal information. The guidance says forces should reject potential recruits with convictions for serious offences – including causing bodily harm, burglary, dangerous driving and supplying drugs – unless there are "exceptionally compelling circumstances".
Seems reasonable to me...who was it said "a civilisation/society should be judged on how it treats its criminals"?
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fishing without a licence
That should be a treasonable offence!
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If the offences are minor as some have pointed out, then its a non-story so stop foaming at the mouth. If, however they're serious then damn right they shouldn't be upholding a law that they themselves flout.
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cynic-al
Thank **** you're not (and never will be) a politician.nealglover
If your not willing to accept that people can change, then any further discussion on the subject is pointless.would either of you have a problem with time served paedophiles becoming primary school teachers?
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would either of you have a problem with time served paedophiles becoming primary school teachers?
Thank god somebody's thinking of the children!
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Thefts in the past five years include handcuffs, uniforms, speed guns, dogs, riot shields, and even patrol cars.
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The police are criminals, end of story
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phil.w - Member
would either of you have a problem with time served paedophiles becoming primary school teachers?
Of course - 1. it's a serious crime and 2. (as I am sure you know) it's virtually impossible to be rehabilitated from peadophilia.
PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE POSTING.
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would either of you have a problem with time served paedophiles becoming primary school teachers?
If you can explain a direct comparison between crimes such as fishing without a license, speeding, theft etc.
And an incurable Mental Disorder such as Peadophilia.
I'd be happy to answer whatever is left of your question.
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PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE POSTING.
oh ok,Rehabilitation is about the individual and not the seriousness of the crime. So to suggest that all Police that have criminal records have been rehabilitated is as ridiculous a position as it is to say they should all be kicked out.
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And an incurable Mental Disorder such as Peadophilia.
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As long as the judicial system is unjust and a mechanism of control for the rich and powerful, all police officers will continue to be criminals.
As I have said and will continue to say, they police are simply thugs who work for the government
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mmm, peas...
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PLEASE EN
GRAGE BRAIN BEFORE POSTING.Posted 4 months ago # -
Kaesae - evidence for what you are saying?
phil.w - Member
to suggest that all Police that have criminal records have been rehabilitated is as ridiculous a position as it is to say they should all be kicked out.Who suggested that?
Otherwise, I am not sure what point, if any, you are trying to make.
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I am not sure what point, if any, you are trying to make
Welcome to the forum
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I'd love to visit kaesaeworld for a day.
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thegreatape - Member
I'd love to visit kaesaeworld for a day.I imagine it's a very welcoming place, until you ask to leave...
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Good point. I'll stay away.
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From the "Welcome Pack" at Kaeseaworld :
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I reckon an equivilent 'crime' is the inability to read past a headline...
Most of the convictions are for traffic offences such as speeding and drink-driving, but the records also include an officer in South Yorkshire was convicted of fishing without a licence.
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What about discharged bankrupts not being allowed to join the police?
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What about discharged bankrupts not being allowed to join the police?
I would say if they have shown sensible management of their finances since they should be allowed to join. These sort of rules are used to much too exclude people from all kinds of Public jobs.
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I'm not sure how bankruptcy alone should relate to any profession/position other than directorships and financial stuff - even then, folk can change.
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