Some people are being very dim here - try to understand what I am saying before telling me I am talking poo.
Why on earth would we want to do that?
Some people are being very dim here - try to understand what I am saying before telling me I am talking poo.
Why on earth would we want to do that?
m_f - I think people do understand - you don't want your children seeing behaviour modelled on cbeebies that indicates that 'swearing' (whatver words are used) when annoyed/upset/etc is ok?
I think the problem is that the expletive when stubbing one's toe (or whatever) is a natural thing to do and most people accept that and then just try and make their kids understand what's acceptable to use when.
For most 'Oh poo!' is almost funny when said by a small child in an appropriate context so it doesn't bother them.
wouldn't it make sense to teach your kids simple guidelines about swearing:
you can swear.
its fun to swear.
its even more fun to make up swear words with friends.
you must not swear at adults, teachers or parents.. if you do santa will rape christmas and burn down easter.
you must only teach children younger than you swear words if you think adults, teachers or parents cannot hear you.
swearing will make you look cool, much like smoking, drugs and loudly discussing sexual experiences near the geeky kids.
My mate's 12 year old can't wait for this to come out...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNFuSTywG4E
...never heard him say an even mildly rude word mind. Guess if you teach them right and wrong instead of ignoring an issue....
Again, point missed
If you're suggesting that it's not the word that is at issue, then is your point that "oh sausages" or "oh jelly babies" is equally unacceptable? If that's not your point, then yest I am missing the point - you're going to have to explain it in words of a single syllable (preferably avoiding those somebody might find offensive).
Molgrips
That's two people, myself and another, you've reprimanded for 'missing the point' on a quite surreal thread.
Please tell me you're just being a silly billy and not really taking this seriously
to be honest I'm far more worried about CeeBeebies showing that people with 1 arm are normal and not to be burnt at the stake than them using the word poo
(yes I'm taking the wee wee here)
I like Katy, would like to see some pics\video of her and nina (minus the neurons) getting some lesbo action
I get called poo poo head by my 5 year old all the time, and as such his brother now also uses the language. He only does this at home though and possibly while at school. While we're out he acts like a little **** angel
An expletive doesn't need to contain a swear word for it to have a negative meaning......'poo' is not offensive - I accept that. What I was simply saying was that teaching very young children to use it expletively seems odd.
So is your objection just based on CBeebies teaching your children that they can use words to express displeasure/frustration/annoyance?
If so then I entirely agree. The last thing we want is a generation of kids that are able to express themselves using words. They should just bottle up all those feelings and bury them deep inside till it develops into a burning ulcer of hate and loathing... like their dads did.
The last thing we want is a generation of kids that are able to express themselves using words.
But yes, I accept children will learn this sort of language and much worse. But to use it on a television programme directed at young children seems odd. Just like I wouldn't expect a teacher to say something that in front of small children.
Ohh, poo says nothing - it is expletive. Pointless. An utterance.
But an expletive does still say something though, in my opinion. It expresses an emotion.
I get this same nonsense from the missus. I moderated my language to avoid swearing, but I get pulled up for saying things like "Bloody hell" or "Damn".
In my experience saying something like "I say Timothy. I seem to have trapped my fingers between this oily bicycle chain and the sharp teeth of this rather worn cassette. That really is frightfully painful." doesn't convey the same urgency or emotion - which means the expletive is actually better communication.
Okay, so I agree Graham, expletives are an integral part of our language.
Teaching that they are right to pre-school children is not necessary though. Do you not think?
In my experience saying something like "I say Timothy. I seem to have trapped my fingers between this oily bicycle chain and the sharp teeth of this rather worn cassette. That really is frightfully painful." doesn't convey the same urgency or emotion - which means the expletive is actually better communication.erm what about Ow? or possibly Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh
I get the expressive point but there's not much expression in Poo! Damn! or even ****socks! A deep breath may be a better reaction to frustration and a visceral scream for your actual physical pain
Teaching that they are right to pre-school children is not necessary though. Do you not think?
I don't think they need to be taught actual swear words. But they do need to be taught about emotions - particular how to interpret and empathise with the emotions of other people.
erm what about Ow? or possibly Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh
Possibly a fair substitute in the finger/chain incident - but less so when expressing something like frustration or disappointment.
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