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Recommedations for a 140mm fork for a Ragley Blue Pig

36 posts & 19 voices | Started 1 year ago by exilegeordie | Latest reply from Mackem

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exilegeordie - Member

Hi,

I snapped up a 2010 Blue Pig frame from JE James before Christmas, but now I don't know which fork to fit. Ideally I'd like to run 140mm travel, within a budget of £300. Am I hoping for the impossible? They don't have to be light, but do need to be fairly burly as I'm not the most subtle of riders. Main use will be XC, with a bit of downhill action thrown in for chuckles.

I was looking at these though I'm guessing they wouldn't fit with the 1.125" steerer?

Sorry for the newbie post...this is the first bike I've built up and the range of stuff available is a wee bit daunting.
Cheers,

Andy

Posted 1 year ago #
druidh - Member

They won't fit.

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Crikey, that was quick...can you suggest some decent alternatives?

Posted 1 year ago #
Mackem - Member

Sektors? Just got some, havent ridden them.

Apparently they are pikes but less gnarly, certainly not as heavy as I expected. I'm currently telling everyone to shop here for them, as they are way cheaper than anywhere else I've seen....

http://www.bike-components.de/products/info/p25685_Sektor-RL-U-Turn-Federgabel-Modell-2011-.html

Posted 1 year ago #
stevede - Member

Pike 454's - there are a couple of sets on the for sale section at the moment for £200 ish (2nd hand).

Posted 1 year ago #
druidh - Member

As mackem says - Sektors seem to be getting the nod in the "not too expensive" 140mm category. Frankly, your £300 budget isn't really going to stretch to something worthy of the frame, unless you go second-hand.

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Thanks Mackem...they look like they could fit the bill. Anymore for anymore?

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Fair call druidh...I'll keep an eye on the classifieds for Pikes in the meantime.

Posted 1 year ago #
stevede - Member

There you go:

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/pike-454s-and-small-clearout
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/pike-454-air-u-turn-195-posted

No link to either seller but both look good buys.

Posted 1 year ago #
vdubber67 - Member

Secondhand Fox TALAS? Running some on my Blue Pig, with 100/120/140 travel and they're great. What about some Revelations, again maybe second hand?

Posted 1 year ago #
spikester - Member

140 revelations rlt from James for £320 going on my pig tomorrow.
Still had some in stock today.

Posted 1 year ago #
wors - Member

Aren't sektors 150mm? Thats what i'll be ordering anyway

Posted 1 year ago #
Mackem - Member

The 9mm QR ones are 140mm the rest are 150.

Posted 1 year ago #
james - Member

"Frankly, your £300 budget isn't really going to stretch to something worthy of the frame"

The frame isn't exactly brimming with the latest technologies though is it? Its £260 through a distributer (okay if you buy through CRC they are one and the same). Its a 5.5lbs frame so while okay for 130-150mm steel its 1/4lb heavier than an ibis mojo sl, so fork weight ought not to be a must to keep really low.
Sector 20mm (or 15mm?) shouldn't be lacking in tracking (20mm being pike lowers IIRC?), the coil U-turn spring is the same as was used in coil pikes/revelations IIRC (and solo air is active enough), motion control and standard rebound are useable. They may not be upto to standards of RS Blackbox or Fox damping, but IMHO/IMHE you'll have enough harshness from the rear end to be worrying about the fork damping

I'd reckon sectors/pikes/non-silly-bells-and-whistles revelations would suit the bike pretty well

Posted 1 year ago #
Northwind - Member

Mackem - Member

"Apparently they are pikes but less gnarly"

Nah, they're 2010 Revelations but less good. Nothing wrong with that but people seem convinced they're tougher than Revs, not the case.

I got my Rev Teams (with blackbox and maxle) for £300 used... I'd do that if I was you. Pigs and Bops really can benefit from all the fork you can throw at them

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Bump for the daytime crowd - thanks for all the advice so far.

Posted 1 year ago #
firestarter - Member

I've got an old set of 130mm bombers on mine I had Talas on it before but the bombers are miles better. Heres a pic cos I like it ;)I picked up the forks on here for 80 iirc

Posted 1 year ago #
reggiegasket - Member

+1 coil Sektors or s/hand coil 454 Pikes

Had both. Pikes heavier but burlier. Sektors are an excellent trail fork IMO.

Posted 1 year ago #
ahwiles - Member

blue pig with 140mm Rockshox-Recon* forks here.

(solo air)

very happy with both.

(*odd forks these, pike lowers bolted onto what looks like a revelation crown, with the usual motion-control knobs top-and-bottom)

Posted 1 year ago #
cr500dom - Member

I Have a Pair of Coil U-Turn Lyrics on my Blue pig

Bit heavy but it doesnt ride like it....... the ride is fantastic
115mm for singletrack through the forest, up to 160mm for bigger / steeper stuff

Posted 1 year ago #
albacore - Member

how about coil u turn revelations, second hand if need be? I have a set on my Prince albert and they ar great shocks.

I am not sure if you get maxle recons at that length and budget? If so I would highly recommend those as well, I have a set of 120mm ones on my core 50 and they are one of the best forks I have ridden for general trail riding..

Posted 1 year ago #
The Southern Yeti - Member

I'm building up a hardtail with Air 454 pikes they weigh about 2.2kg.
That ain't too bad really is it?

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

And what steerer length should I be looking for? Sorry if this is a really dumb-ass question.

Posted 1 year ago #
chiefgrooveguru - Member

Cotic recommended the Sektor coil u-turn yesterday when I asked about a 100-140 fork for a Soul (having also mentioned the twice the price Fox TALAS 32 to them).

Posted 1 year ago #
BillOddie - Member

I have some Dual Air Pike 454 on mine, which work nicely.

I also have some 2004 era Marzocchi Z1 FR SLs (130mm)that I might put on once I have replaced the bushings. They are about the same AC length as a 140mm Pike. they are 9mm QR though which is a bit of a shame but they are stiff for a QR fork.

If I was buying new I would be looking at 140mm Revs, Sektors, Marz 44 or maybe even a 160mm Marz 55.
I would definetly be looking for a 15mm or 20mm bolt through fork though.

You want something not daft heavy but can take a bit of hammer in my opinion.

Posted 1 year ago #
Mackem - Member

Had a few days on my Sektors now, I'm pretty impressed.

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Mackem,

Thanks for the heads up on the German site - ordered some Sektors last night. Is it me, or do they have some bizarre payments system? Apparently I need to wait for an email from them before I can arrange payment...no option to pay by credit card by the looks of it.

How was the service from them? Pretty prompt?
Cheers,

Andy

Posted 1 year ago #
ChunkyMTB - Member

S/H Pikes would be perfect. Plenty of air u-turns about but I'd go for a coil if you can find one. I was lucky enough to pick up coil 454's recently, hardly used and the steerer hadn't even been cut

Keep an eye out on the classifieds, loads of hardly used kit that people sell because they want this years sticker on a component or the latest component pictured in a mag. Gawd love'em!

Posted 1 year ago #
firestarter - Member

Exilegeordie the payment system is odd isn't it lol but the stuff I got from them arrived in only a couple of days and was tracked the whole way

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

firestarter - So how do you go about making a money order? Is it something you can do at a post office?
Cheers,

Andy

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

firestarter - any chance you could elaborate on the payment method please?

Posted 1 year ago #
firestarter - Member

Hi they emailed me their details for payment and I paid it with paypal it was a funny system but worked

Edit may have been bank transfer actually thinking about it

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Thanks dude, much appreciated.

Posted 1 year ago #
Murray - Member

Exilegeordie, the Germans have (had) a thing about credit. Something to do with everyone losing their money in the 1930s. Most mail order is done by bill payments - a bit like UK Faster Payments but it's been around a lot longer. Debit cards exist in large numbers but credit card uptake is much smaller than the UK or USA.

Posted 1 year ago #
exilegeordie - Member

Thanks Murray, that makes sense.

Posted 1 year ago #