Yay..New Bike day… Downcountry/Uptrail/whatever…

As @SirHC suggests. DTSwiss XR391 on 240exp hubs (Sapim race spokes). That is what I have had on my Spur for the last 2 years. No issues as yet – although I am aware they are lightweight and ride with that in mind.

I was on holiday with a hunt employee and he was telling me he was eternally amazed how many people specced inappropriate wheels/tyres for their bikes and their riding! razzing xc wheels at a bike park – it is fairly unsuprising they broke.

other than the daft wheels the bike looks amazing but i snapped my last xc weapon that i used for razzing. do specialized have a jumps and drops limit for their bikes like canyon and other companies do?

Well they didn’t break at BPW… and even if they had, I would expect ANY wheel to survive the green and Blues there!

Cracked last night on a local XC loop (Whiteways/Duncton) for those who know the area…

DrP

Mleh, sometimes it just happens. I hope Hunt sort you out. 👍

Well, I’ve given in after reading various bits about these and just ordered an Epic Evo Comp. It’ll be getting the Hunt XC Wide wheels fitted which are on the current bike and have been faultless for years!

Now to try and talk myself out of the T-type drivetrain…

All I can say about t type is that it really IS incredible!

Perfect shifting….which is better under power!

DrP

Mine arrived this morning so I’ve transferred the bits across from the other bike and managed to get it out for an hour before the impending downpours. It’s now got Hunt XC Wide wheels, X0 AXS drivetrain and SID Ultimate forks. Out of the box it was 12.35kg without pedals, it’s now down to 11.7kg with flat pedals fitted. I need to trim the front brake hose and the dropper is going and will be replaced by an AXS reverb, annoyingly my old bike was a 31.6mm post and this is a 30.9mm. The steerer is also going to need a trim once I’ve figured out the position.

First impressions are that it’s a really comfortable ride, I’d forgotten what full sun bikes were like after riding hardtails for years. It needs a few tweaks to get it right but the suspension seems to work well with the settings from the Trail Head app.

Looks nice. Lovely colour.

I have a 1 ride old 30.9 AXS Reverb dropper that came with my S Works Levo that needs to be sold

What length is the Reverb?

125mm

I was wanting a 150mm, not sure 125mm will be enough.

Saying that, I actually wanted a 170mm but it won’t fit!

OK. No problem. Was looking for £350

Though I love AXS….

I’ve stuck a Fox transfer SL on the epic Evo now! Only 100mm drop which is fine for this bike!

And only weighs 360gm!

If they could have that weight wireless I’d go for it!

DrP

I must stop looking at this thread and the Certini website. Really, must.

I had my first proper ride on my Evo on Sunday.

It’s great! Previous bike is an original Ibis Mojo (2008 I think?)… so quite different!

Second ride on the Epic this morning and what I thought was headset play turns out to be lower leg bushing play on the SID Ultimate forks I’ve fitted ☹️

Looks like the Select + forks will be going back on while I get the Ultimates sent away for warranty repair.

I seem to keep reading about issues with SID ultimates… Aren’t the lowers on the Select only 50g heavier?

I’m not sure on the weight difference between the Ultimate and the Select, I just thought the blue looked better on the Epic 😂

Do the Select forks have the same issue with the bushes?

The new 2024 Ultimates seem to address the issue with a longer upper tube to prevent the bushing overlap.

My select (normal, not plus) have zero bushing play… but they are only 80km old….

Rear wheel stripped and heading back to hunt today for replacement!

Might get a lightweight rim strip…or…. drill out my spare rimpact pro for weight saving!

DrP

Bushing play is a huge issue with the first gen 35mm SID Ultimate / Select / Select+. One shop told me that they all end up getting it at some point and the bushings / lower leg is a one-piece part so you can’t simply replace the bushings. Terrible design but not unexpected from SRAM / Rock Shox. They have previous form in this regard. Also really crappy the way SRAM said initially it was only a specific batch of forks that had the problem, but two years later its still a big issue. SRAM service centres often never even have spare lowers in stock so if you warranty your fork there’s potentially months of waiting for a fix.

The new 2024 Ultimates seem to address the issue with a longer upper tube to prevent the bushing overlap.

This is what they say but we will have to wait and see.

Also really crappy the way SRAM said initially it was only a specific batch of forks that had the problem, but two years later its still a big issue.

This was the only reason I bough these over a set of Fox forks, I was under the impression that it was only the early ones that were affected.

I was toying with the idea of getting some of the 2024 3P SID forks but I think I’ll be knocking that idea on the head now. Maybe time to look out for some deals on the Fox 34 Step Cast forks instead.

@DrP How’s your GX Transmission been?

I picked up a groupset from a PSA here last week and on riding it today I’ve found that I’ve got an annoying clicking in the 16t. Nothing seems to be bent or damaged at all.

Is yours like that?

The Epic Evo which will be replacing my sadly deceased Kinesis Sync hasn’t arrived yet (cyclescheme shenanigans) but I’m already accumulating jewellery for it. I went for the base model from Certini, as it fits my scheme limit, but so far it has lightly used XX1 AXS and a new X01 chainset waiting for it. I’ll probably transfer my old Thomson bar and XTR brakes over, and am seriously thinking of using my nearly new Fox 34 130mm forks. Any thoughts or experience with running slightly longer travel on one of these? I could change the air shaft, but part of me thinks the extra 10mm might a. be quite nice and b. not actually make any noticeable difference to how it rides..?

@crossed..

The GX t type is fantastic… no clicking my end.. have you trimmed it… even one press in trim mode can make a huge difference.

Also… wheel picked up and fitted yesterday… With a rimpact v1 rimstrio, so only adds 100gm…

But the Fox transfer sl is about 180gm lighter than the stock dropper, so I’m still up (down…?)

DrP

As far as I know the Fox 34 130 mm has 10mm longer axle to crown dimension than 120mm so you’ll slacken all the angles about 0.5 degree relative to 120mm. I think you can only change airshaft to be 140mm (with identical axle to crown, so same geo), not down to 120mm. Happy to be corrected.

Apparently it can be reduced to 120 with a new air shaft. £170ish at TF Tuned. Just not sure it’s worth it?

@Crossed – is that the 2022  Gloss Cool Grey/Dove Grey?

@dickie

No, it’s the Gloss White Sage/Sage Green

First week in on my comp and I love it after a couple of rides. Although unfortunately I’ve managed to completely round out the rear thru axle today when going to swap tyres. Park Tool twisted hex key didn’t work. Don’t feel like I overtightened it but must have after swapping the wheels, it’s we’ll stuck and also made out of very soft alu. Need to suck it up and get it to the shop for removal, already ordered a new axle, so upsetting 🙁

Bugger! Have you an easy-out drill set? Just a reverse drill bit…

Also, was thinking about this…

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I was on holiday with a hunt employee and he was telling me he was eternally amazed how many people specced inappropriate wheels/tyres for their bikes and their riding! razzing xc wheels at a bike park – it is fairly unsuprising they broke

I remember in my youth riding trials on a Scott xc bike… v brakes… xc wheels etc …

Big ol’ drops… hoppity hop…That held up fine!

I do wonder if this massive pigeon holing of bike sub genres leads to people thinking “an xc wheelset can’t be ridden fast” etc etc…

DrP

Bugger! Have you an easy-out drill set? Just a reverse drill bit…

I’ve considered it but I’ve come to the conclusion I’m only likely to make it worse, so I will put my tail between my legs, admit to being a numpty and accept the judgement of the local bike shop mechanics.

Sorry to read about your wheels, you saw my wheel thread. Hunt are definitely marmite.

Mendes wheel fitted… so rude not to take it for a quick blast!

Fox transfer sl and purple loam lever on there too!

It’s still soooo fun and fast!

DrP

Love seeing these bikes, real purpose and great fun!

Keep the pics coming

I understand that Mavic have been very good at offering a decent discounts to replace broken Hunt wheels when Hunt haven;t been able to warrenty, I’m not sure on the details but may be worth asking at local Mavic dealers.

I’m considering buying one of these too, currently don’t own a MTB, and have only had hardtails in the past. I want something predominantly for all-round riding around the Peaks. Is the “comp” version worth the extra £500 over the base model? I’m leaning towards yes, with the SIDs instead of the Reba, better brakes (4 vs 2 pots) and groupset (GX vs NX)?

For proper riding in the peak I agree it would be worth spending the extra for those upgrades. The stiffer fork will be significantly better on those rocky descents.

Comp owner here, can’t do anything other than persuade you to part with your money. The Sid’s are an outstanding fork IME. It’s all just working for me.

hunt wheels are rubbish, surprised you spent so much money on them.

Would really like to get one of these, but I would really need to sell my Ripmo AF, but as Merlin and Start Fitness are selling new ones for around £2k, I’d be lucky to get £1200 for mine and I really don’t want to let it go for that. Might just have to put some inappropriate light wheels on it instead.

DrP, how are you finding the Ground controls…. Will you race with them?

hunt wheels are rubbish, surprised you spent so much money on them.

The Hunt XC Wide wheels on both my bikes have been faultless over the past four or five years I’ve had them.

how are you finding the Ground controls…

I’ve been surprised by the Ground Controls on mine, they’re really grippy and feel pretty fast rolling with it. I’m actually considering fitting a set on the singlespeed for winter duties to replace the current Fast Trak tyres it’s running. Hopefully they’ll be discounted somewhere in the Black Friday sales when they come around.