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  • TandemJeremy
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    Hilldodger – there are certainly some parallels / similarities and he has shifted his emphasis more onto carbs in general than he did.

    hilldodger
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    Edukator – Member
    ….if you are worried about the fructose in the fruit you eat (or the dried fruit in your müesli) or the lactose in the cheese you eat then I suggest you should question the diet you’ve adopted rather than the proportion of cheese or fruit you’re eating.

    I agree, and have noticed that much of the confusion/consternation recently about the D-word is due to people failing to distinguish between an eating plan to lose weight, one to maintain a “healthy” weight, and one to aid sports performance…..

    stevewhyte
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    rkk01 – Member

    Next up. SUGAR. Where the hell does it come from? I blow through my sugar “target” every day! From what I can see, this is entirely down to muesli (20g) and milk (16g)

    Are the targets too low? Or or are there easy ways to reduce. Looking at porridge as the cure at the mo

    I have been looking into this for ove a year, it has taken me 40 years to realise how bad sugar is for you and how much sugar is in just about everything.

    I use the teaspoon method, convert the grams into teaspoonfuls of sugar to give me a unit of measurment the whole family can relate to.

    Now when out with the kids the fist thing thay ask is how many teaspoons in this dad before thay say can i have it, lols

    Ditch all breakfast cereal, its poison.

    Porage oats, eggs, bacon, etc for breaky.

    Convert everything to teaspoons of sugar, its an eye opener.

    Edukator
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    A quote from your linked site, TJ:

    It (sugar) also breaks down to fat!!

    No it doesn’t, it gets converted to glycogen with a some help from insulin and consumed or stored unless you eat too much of it in which case th eexcess will be converted to fat.

    TandemJeremy
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    Again from the website I linked to – sugar calculator
    http://www.giveupsugar.com/lose_weight/your_sugar_calculator_1

    TandemJeremy
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    edukator – fructose is differnt from glucose in how it is metabolised although the quote is a simplified version.

    non simplified
    http://www.nature.com/nrgastro/journal/v7/n5/full/nrgastro.2010.41.html

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?volume=303&issue=15&page=1490

    oliverd1981
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    I need a high fibre breakfast cereal that’s low in sugar. Recommendations?

    druidh
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    Porage?

    oliverd1981
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    doesn’t aid my regularity. I’m offshore so it’s not like there’s much choice. Guess it’ll have to be all barn.

    Edukator
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    It would be nice if the Nature people stated the source of what they consider excessive fructose, TJ. Fructose tastes very sweet so the food industry has taken to adding it. I’m not in favour of added sugar of any kind but would be very surprised if five-a-day fell into that articles excessive category.

    hilldodger
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    Edukator – Member

    …..unless you eat too much of it

    which is kind of all you need to remember 😉
    I can think of no component of food (barring known poisons or products of contamination/spoilage) which will per se “be bad for you” when present in your diet unless you consume immoderately or have a medical condition which contraindicates that food/substance

    hilldodger
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    oliverd1981 – Member
    doesn’t aid my regularity. I’m offshore so it’s not like there’s much choice

    smuggle out some prunes and add to the porridge ?

    Edukator
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    A recent immoderate session involved three of us, a swim session, and a 2kg tray of stawberries. No ill effects whatsoever. 🙂

    hilldodger
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    Edukator – Member
    A recent immoderate session involved three of us, a swim session, and a 2kg tray of stawberries. No ill effects whatsoever.

    Sounds like a nice post exercise refuel, I assume the strawberries were a food item rather than recreational accessory 😈

    Cougar
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    So the conclusions here are,

    1) everything’s bad for you,

    2) no-one really has a clue.

    How am I doing?

    …..unless you eat too much of it

    I think perhaps that’s the real science right there.

    Lean grilled bacon is high in fat?

    Genuine question speaking as a vegetarian,

    Who the hell grills bacon?

    I take the mystery out if it and simply eat sugar cubes for breakfast, dinner, and tea

    Half memory but, didn’t the guy who discovered(?) sugar effectively kill his wife by feeding her a diet of sugar (“the purest of foods”) and nothing else?

    yunki
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    it cracks me up that people cut down sugar for weight loss.. I mean really..!!?

    you’ve got to be eating pretty poorly to be taking on enough sugar to make you fat.. look at hummingbirds you crazy fools!

    donsimon
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    look at hummingbirds fools!

    Aren’t they pretty active though? Could exercise be seen as beneficial when trying to lose weight, or more specifically burning fat?
    I don’t know. It’s just a thought…

    TheSouthernYeti
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    I get my sugar though eating lots of cake, chocolate, biscuits, fruit, and assorted energy products.

    If I haven’t met my target I make meringue or have some custard.

    Works for me.

    Oh and I cook my bacon in the oven or microwave, but steam my black pudding.

    Cougar
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    look at hummingbirds

    Straw man? We should all just eat grass and nothing else because hey, look at cows!

    hilldodger
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    donsimon
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    We should all just eat grass and nothing else because hey, look at cows!

    Plus a bit of chalk apparently, look at cow crap!

    yunki
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    straw men..? that diet sounds like a surefire route to IBS..

    not good brain food either according to this research

    stevewhyte
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    yunki you speak mince.

    I can of coke, 10 teaspoons of sugar. How many could drink 3 ice cold cans over a hot summers day. 30 teaspoons thanks, not difficult it is.

    Look at public health over the last 30 years, sugar is the key factor to the decline.

    yunki
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    I can of coke, 10 teaspoons of sugar. How many could drink 3 ice cold cans over a hot summers day. 30 teaspoons thanks, not difficult it is.

    proves my point neatly, if a little ineloquently..

    Cougar
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    I can of coke, 10 teaspoons of sugar.

    Eight.

    A 330ml can contains 35g of sugar in the UK. That’s eight tsp of granulated sugar (I just measured it, because I’m sad).

    stevewhyte
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    Well done Cougar, give yourself a gold star. 🙄

    ian martin
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    When commuting to work I started calorie counting not to lose weight but to make sure I was eating enough.
    A meal deal from boots ( chicken salad sandwich, bag of crisps and a 500 ml bottle of ribena) only came to about 900 calories. I was burning up about a 1000 on the commute plus my job as an electrician is pretty active so I was having to eat what felt like constantly.
    Some days it would have been cheaper driving than cycling with my bad food cravings.

    yunki
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    stevewhyte
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    Yunki how did you manage to photoshop a pic of yourself on to the can?

    brassneck
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    but steam my black pudding.

    What you do in your own time is your business!

    More importantly, why is everyone writing Porage rather than Porridge?

    hilldodger
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    brassneck – Member
    More importantly, why is everyone writing Porage rather than Porridge?

    Jock-speak innit 😆

    tony24
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    Most peoples sugar intake cOmes from the large latte’s they consume from the coffee shops 🙂

    Cougar
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    why is everyone writing Porage rather than Porridge?

    I assumed it was an attempt to sound more authoritative by using clever words when regular ones are perfectly adequate (see also ‘potable’ from a week back).

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