[Closed] What's in a stem?

wildly differing prices

Cheap, light, strong?

And branding.

The Outland stem is not especially heavy. It's cheap. Is it strong? Who knows?

If you want something to attach the bars to the stem then their are plenty of cheap options that will work fine. If you want a beautifully machined work of art with the benefit of shaving a few grams then buy a Thomson stem. Im not ashamed to own 2. I like nice things. Plenty of people wear jewelry that serves no functional purpose whatsoever. Depends weather bikes are a passion or purely functional for you.

On-One's "Ultralight" stem works just fine for me. Looks and price is right up my alley, and the low stack height and weight is a plus.

Some are pretty flexy, the OEM spesh one on my Pitch for example had a stiffness somewhere between overcooked noodles and erectile dysfunction. The RF one that replaced it is a huge improvement (and a lot lighter than the Easton Vice that came in between).

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-cheap-stems

Some are pretty flexy, the OEM spesh one on my Pitch for example had a stiffness somewhere between overcooked noodles and erectile dysfunction

Whereas I find the EXACT SAME stem on the EXACT SAME bike absolutely fine and cannot see any point at all in replacing it. 🙂

If you want something to attach the bars to the stem then their are plenty of cheap options that will work fine. If you want a beautifully machined work of art with the benefit of shaving a few grams then buy a Thomson stem

The On-One look really nice. Will probs go for that. Unless anyone here has anything nicer they might want to part with for around the same money?

Whereas I find the EXACT SAME stem on the EXACT SAME bike absolutely fine and cannot see any point at all in replacing it.

I thought my stem and bars were absolutely fine until I changed them and was shocked to realise how much the previous ones were flexing - the new set-up feels about five times as stiff!

Never found anything to criticise about my cheap Pro ones, apart from the slightly squinty graphics- light, cheap and strong, pick 3 as long as you're backed by Shimano.

I'd still be interested to know if it's possible to brake even a cheap 50mm stem. Surely the bars would fail first? And what do the terms XC AM and DH actually mean when applied to products? Is this a crude rating system based on the products strenght? Is DH riding really more stressfull on the bike than FR? Where does AM fit in?

More importantly, why is raining when I want to be out riding, leaving me sat indoors pontificating these pointless questions?

I have an on-one 456 stem - fairly light and seems not to flex. I'll have no idea if it's strong unless/until it breaks

On One does a gorgeous CNC'd stem in a range of colours and sizes. I've got a couple and they're beautifully made. Very light too. Highly recommended.

[url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/STOOCNC/on_one_ultralight_cnc_stem ]On One CNC stem[/url]

Thomson stems are just lush, and more importantly, don't have sticky out pinch bolts to smack your knees in to.

Aside from the collection of Thomson's I've accrued, my last stems have been brought on: correct length and angle, colour and today, one that fits Giant's 1 1/4" 'new standard' - 🙄

Thomson stems are nicely made, I wouldn't put them in the lightweight category though.

It's 'break' by the way.

I noted numerous spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread.
Staying on topic though,I have never broke a stem or handlebars.
I have some road bike handlebars that I noted have some flex to them but have never noticed flex in any stems I have owned,besides a small amount of give in the right direction can give a more comfortable ride.
I have some Control tech stems which are pretty nice.

Didn't some of the original X-Lite Fly stems which were machined or cast crack. Don't think I've seen a tubular stem break however you did used to get some twisting on longer stems back in the day.
I stick with Thomson or Hope - partly vanity also I never want to wake up in A&E after a failure because I wanted to save a few grams.

My Easton havoc stem never survived its first crash. Go Renthal purely as they amazing customer service & are UK based.

[i]I noted numerous spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread.
Staying on topic though,I have never broke a stem or handlebars.[/i]

Slaps forehead.

Thomson stems = reputation for quality but not looks or lightweight afaik.

superdale - Member

Don't think I've seen a tubular stem break

I've had a tubular stem go at the weld before.

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=67&products_id=416

Stem faceplates do break. Thomson are the only manufacturer I know of that admit that a facplate is a consumable item and will eventually fail and sell them for a reasonable cost (unless you want a fancy one).

I do prefer the top lock style faceplates though where you close up the top gap to zero and then the bottom. People trying to match the gap top and bottom, left and right by eye probably puts a little bit of twist on faceplate and possibly means they end up over tightening a bit as it doesnt quite clamp as well.

I had a bolt go on the face plate leaving me holding an unconnected set of bars in a remote corner of Scotland, if that helps.

Go Renthal purely as they amazing customer service & are UK based.

The duo is also very stiff, remarkably light and looks rather cool.

and it is actually a VERY good idea compared to a normal stem design.

Bought and used numerous mountain and road bikes in the last 30+ years yet never bought or changed a stem, looks like i`m missing out!!!

[i]The On-One look really nice. Will probs go for that. Unless anyone here has anything nicer they might want to part with for around the same money? [/i]

So, rather than buy a new stem that's been recommended (by more than one person), you'd rather buy s/h... 😯

I had the on-one, the stem itself is a lovely piece of kit but the one I had the bolts did seem to be made of a particularly soft kind of cheese. After that I spent just over £10 more and got a Thomson.

I got one of the On-One Ultralights last Xmas for £19.99.

A bargain at that price but I wouldn't pay £39.99.

Regarding Thomson stems Id just like to point out I did say shave "a few" grams. Im no weight weenie and clearly you can go lighter if you want - carbon being the obvious one.

I dont like carbon stems though - no particular reason I just like metal and appreciate the craftsmanship.
That said though - Although I have never (and will never) weigh a component the Thomson felt considerably lighter than the stock stems I removed. I cant imagine you could go much lighter in aluminium and still be safe and none flexy. Given I use these stems on my light weight hardtail and for DH on 160mm big rig I think they are perfect and would not consider anything lighter.

I would think that stems are one of the items I'd always be willing to spend a premium on.
More likely to be transferrable to a new frame than most other components, almost zero wear and tear degradation, and penalty for failure pretty catastrophic.

And repetitive Thom[s]p[/s]son bashers should at least learn to spell the brand, especially those "in the trade" 😆

TBH I think the biggest issue with stems these days isn't them snapping or cracking but with the threads stripping.

I've had this happen on a couple of cheap no-brand alu stems but never of a recognised make.

The only thing that could possibly go wrong is a brakage

Quality stems are a precision fit and barely require any tightening of the bolts