>Most dog owners are idiots and have never socialised or trained their dogs,<

Of course…

Sorry junkyard I don’t see where I have “my analogy”.

Its not at you its at TINAS as that is who i quoted- we both seem to agree his analogy is silly for the same reason- you posted whilst I was typing and that is my first read of your post and I dont disagree with anything you have said

Apologies Junkyard, I’ve had a very very long day 😀

Well I don’t think I’ve managed 3 pages before!
My water bottle trick has worked before but I only carry one on local rides, one dog’s bad enough but on this occasion there were two. Now I’m wary of dogs but no way scared of them (had dogs most of my life, but not usually my choice) but I’m not a dog mind reader & It’s ok people saying ‘they were only being inquisitive/playing/larking about’ How would you know? It was outside he property they obviously live in & had been left to roam on a bridleway, how do I know they weren’t being defensive?
Luckily I can bypass that stretch by staying on the main road but why should I have to?

I seem to have fallen foul of dogs a bit recently – two bites in the last few months (one quite deep but thankfully didn’t go bad). Have ridden for years with no problem then two together.

pingu66 – Most dog owners are idiots

pingu66 – Sorry junkyard I don’t see where I have “my analogy”.

Junkyard – Its not at you its at TINAS as that is who i quoted

pingu66 – Apologies Junkyard, I’ve had a very very long day

Idiots you say? 😆

Hey Euro well done. I guess you never made a mistake? Anything worthwhile to add to thread or just picking on people? Also I did apologise.

Thanks pingu.

I make mistakes all the time, but try to avoid calling people (i’ve never met) idiots.

Nothing really worthwhile to add. I did mention earlier that I don’t think kicking a dog is particularly brave. Would you kick a polar bear or a tiger? It’s a little bit like an adult kicking a child.

Punching a dog is brave (uppercut) 😀

Oldweg, yes being perfectly serious. Obviously as a dog owner I tend to more relaxed with dogs, but seriously I feel that talking firmly but calmly will sort out 90% of yappers!

@euro A dog is not usually a lethal threat, a polar bear however is NOT usually wanting a chat about the validity of ROW legislation.

When you say NOT usually, does that mean there’s the possibility that the bear would be willing discus the issue?

If i absolutely had too, i’d chance swinging a leg at a tiger. You never know. I’ll be running like **** from that bear though.

I’ve had the odd dog incident on the bike. So far, i’ve yet to be bitten. I dangle my foot out to tease the wee ****, then quickly and firmly push the dogs head away from me and cycle on. Like a kick, buddist ninja idiot style. Try it, it’s very satisfying 😀

I like dogs though and can’t imagine being frightened in that situation. I’d maybe lash out if i was.

Oldweg, yes being perfectly serious. Obviously as a dog owner I tend to more relaxed with dogs, but seriously I feel that talking firmly but calmly will sort out 90% of yappers!

Dog owners making the effort to train their dogs properly would be better though wouldn’t it. I’d rather not get harassed in the first place.

Exactly grum – which is what I said in my first post.

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This is not to deny the fact that dog owners should keep their animals under control at all times but merely to remind us of the laws of the land.

[Tell me, you seem to making a habit of jumping on my posts at the moment. Is it actually you, or have you lent your password to your old mate, who was fond of such things? 😉 ]

You did mention it briefly, but most of what you’ve said sounds a bit like blaming the victim.

Not sure what to say about the second bit, don’t think I’ve been ‘jumping on’ your posts, I just disagree with you quite often.

Let you off then, just sounds like….

Not blaming the victim, just trying to give advice from what works for me. But I do think that the “kick the dog type in the head” type of advice in recent threads is ill-advised – one, for the likely reaction and, two, because its illegal.

IMO aggressive dogs are best dealt with in a calm, but firm manner.

IMO aggressive dogs are best dealt with in a calm, but firm manner. by a vet with a big needle followed by a swift cremation and a fine for the owner

FIFY 😉

Obviously as a dog owner I tend to more relaxed with dogs, but seriously I feel that talking firmly but calmly will sort out 90% of yappers!

It would not work with dogs and it would not work with humans but i would pay good money to see you try with either 😉