what dh/fr bike?
you might find a smaller frame suits you better – I'm 6'3 and my playbike is a 17" frame (cannondale Gemini) – its a little short in the top tube but that's more the nature of the bike than anything else. Its not great for xc, but it's nice and tight for dh.
I'd take a look at renting\borrowing\test riding a bike in a 19" for a day or 2 and see how you get on.Posted 7 years ago
right im wanting to upgrade my bike.
i am needing/wanting a fr/dh bike with 180mm+ fork options.
im looking at the spesh demo 8 or commercial dh 2010 but the prob is im 6ft5 and struggling obviously to find a bike big enough. i ride a 21" frame fully now and its fit is perfect but im struggling to find something close to this size.
any ideas of other bikes or ways to hsve a look?Posted 7 years agoIAMember
Got my socom from CRC for various reasons.
Short TTs are annoying for DH if you're tall, no room to move about the bike. Nicolais come in "big" too, as do Glorys, and Sundays (but that'd be s/h). 17" oranges are also a reasonable size, though not massive.
There's not a lot of choice for the taller DH gent basically and it's a hassle getting a go on stuff.Posted 7 years agoCaptain PugwashMember
I've just come back from doing the passport and while in Chatel I had a look on the Commencal stand and they a rail of these;
They look amazing and its base around the DH. Was told they would be in the country in the next few months.Posted 7 years ago
anyone heard much of these bikes??
any opinions about it? its in the sale at the moPosted 7 years agostoooMember
Santacruz Bullit – in a large… with a set of Totems up front. Luuuuurvely.
I'm still loving my older bullit with Lyriks. Great bike. Really simple, bomb proof, pedal up to the top OK with a platform shock. Mine is all coil (DHX on the back) with mid weight wheels and tyres. Bike weighs 36Lb. Can ride it all day, any where.Posted 7 years agowarpcowMember
There's a few guys here in Sweden saying good things about yt-industries. Have a look at their 'Tues' models, available in FR or DH guises. There was a lot of speculation as to whether it was real at first because of the prices (they do an 8kg, full SRAM XX carbon XC-bike for 2000 euros 😯 ), but the first ones arrived last week and look good.Posted 7 years ago
singletrackbikes.co.uk – Member
Commencal Supreme DH 2010
Bit of a shameless plug really
But I've got a couple of 2010 Supreme DH left going at 30% off (£2239.99)or on finance can do 20% off (£2559.99) over 18 months.
how big is the L/XL frame size??
thanks;) can you ship to austria?Posted 7 years agosingletrackbikes.co.ukMember
Yeah no problem to ship to Austria. Give me a call to discuss shipping price.
Here are a few comparisons between the SM / LXL:
SM – Seatpost 420mm
LXL – Seatpost 440mm
SM – Wheelbase Adjustable from 1157mm-1172mm
LXL – Wheelbase Adjustable from 1184mm-1200mm
SM – Toptube 584mm
LXL – Toptube 602mm
I'd say SM up to around 5`11" and LXL for 6 foot and over.Posted 7 years ago
as im sure your aware, im wary to buy something for 2k without sitting on one. i will have a think. im 6ft5 also not sure if it will be a little on the smaller side too…
might have to see if there is one kicking about here and buy it from you if your the cheaper price…
nickPosted 7 years ago
Are you racing competitively at DH?
If not then you're not going to notice any difference between a 180mm Single Crown Totem and any other 200mm dual crown fork. Which is best is probably down to what you can get for the money you have (I have a set of Totem's on eBay right now that I would happily ship to Austria).
In terms of what bike, for trail riding in the Alps using purely uplifts, it's a matter of choice really. You could ride a big trail bike that weighs around 35lbs with dual ply tyres and tubes (I think the idea of a 'freeride' bike is dead these days; very little point in a non-DH bike that weighs 40lbs+ as you never going to pedal it anywhere meaningful) or a DH bike that weighs 40lbs.
The former is going to feel more manageable and give you more feedback and feel of the trail underneath you; the latter is going to feel more planted, stable and will allow you to 'get away' with more. You will ride faster on the DH bike but you might not ride 'better'.
The problem is that until you've got the DH bike thing out of your system, you're always going to want to have one. Spend a few years on the bigger bike, ride faster, make some mistakes, pay the price and then either get good enough to warrant riding a DH bike or trade back down for a shorter travel bike and possibly a more engaging experience.
DH bikes really do only come alive at much higher speeds and until that point, you're trading a lot of 'feel' and control for more travel and the ability to get away with more. It's a bit like an F1 car; doesn't really work at lower speeds.
Size is crucial and you should either spend a very long time thinking about sizes, comparing numbers to what you know already or you should test ride something.
The Nicolai Ion I have owned and it doesn't come up big, quite the opposite, they're quite small. The large is about the same size as most other manufacturers' mediums.
Glories used to also be quite small; Sundays are middle of the road. Socoms also, but the Socom is quite a highly strung beast with a relatively high BB that can make it feel a little bit of a handful.
Personally I think modern DH bikes these days are moving away from 90% of people can really ride. 63degree headangles are great when you're doing 40kph at Schladming, but how many riders outside the top 10% are doing that? It just makes the bike very difficult to handle at the more moderate speeds we ride.Posted 7 years ago
Just one other point on the forks; a single crown will give you a lot more steering lock than a dual crown, which might make a difference if you're riding technical alpine single track rather than racing. You need to use a slightly different method of getting around a very tight corner with dual crown forks where you can't simply rely on a lot of steering lock.Posted 7 years ago
wow thanks for all that, its great..
heres the 2 in question…
just thought for 100 euro i could get boxxers 😉Posted 7 years agoRustyNissanPrairieMember
Nick_Christy – Member
wow thanks for all that, its great..
heres the 2 in question…
just thought for 100 euro i could get boxxers
they seem good value, especially the Boxxer DH version. XE reckons 2000euro=£1650, is that frame only price?Posted 7 years agodoug_basqueMTB.comSubscriber
I've just been in Andorra riding a Commencal Supreme DH 2010 as it happens. It's a lovely bike. I disagree (quite a lot!) about not noticing the difference between triple clamp forks and a set of Totems. I rode it back to back with my Cove STD set up with (lovely smooth) coil totems and noticed a big difference. I can ride a bike (and do… a lot) but I'm no DH racer, however the difference between the 2 bikes was huge, in terms of increased control and speed on the DH bike.
I ride my STD here on a mix of DH trails and natural trails where I think that the triple clamp forks would be a total hinderance and the STD is perfect for that. The DH bike was much better for (surprise surprise) the man made DH tracks that didn't have really tight corners etc!
The new Commencal range will feature a Supreme 8 as Pugwash has pointed out above. I only saw it in it's (beautiful yellow) build on the stand and they wouldn't let me ride it but I bet it will be a blast. Quite basic spec so shouldn't be too pricey (I guess!).Posted 7 years ago
[/quote]I rode it back to back with my Cove STD set up with (lovely smooth) coil totems and noticed a big difference.
So you're not comparing the forks on the same bike then? Is it possible that the Cove STD with dual crowns would still feel very different to the Commencal with Totems? One's a DH bike and the other is 'freeride' bike – STD = skinnies, trannies, drops, so you'd want very different geometry for that kind of riding; more stability and accuracy at low speed verus stability at high speed on the Commencal.Posted 7 years ago
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