- what constitutes a 'hilly' ride?
- Rusty SpannerSubscriber
If you need to get off and push, it’s hilly.
If you feel sick, it’s challenging.
If you need to use the inner ring on a triple, it’s sporting.
If it takes you less than 10 minutes to get out of bed the next day, it’s flat.
This only applies to fat, unfit 40 odd year olds with dodgy joints btw. 😀Posted 6 years ago
Righty, so I’m slow then 🙁
Might go out tonight and try again if it’s dry, hopefully a bit more off the brakes on the downhills and pushing harder will bump up the average speed. The hills are a mix of 150m climbing in 2 miles on the longest one, and the steepest is about 80m climbing in 250m! The rest of the rides made up of undulations, and most of the downhills are too steep/twisty to really let off the brakes and recover some of the work put into climbing.Posted 6 years ago
I guess it depends on the steepness too. That loop I posted, none of the hills are really long or steep so you can just hammer them all out of the saddle in the big ring.
80m climbing in 250m!
thats like a 1 in 3 innit!? So I guess it would slow you down/tire you out quite a bitPosted 6 years ago
Oddly, I found it the easiest of the lot! It’s the climb up from the beech to Saltburn, the second corner is hard as you’re going straight up the apex of the switchback and I didn’t exactly sprint through Saltburn afterwards, but as actual climbing goes it’s over before you really have time to get demoralised.Posted 6 years ago
Just done the maths – on your route you had 17m of climbing per km ridden. Big Thor’s mountain stage win on Saturday had 25m of climbing per km ridden. Doesn’t sound too bad in comparison does it (let’s ignore the fact that he had 7.5 times further to go and averaged over 25mph over the stage!)?
IMO the way the climbing comes (short and sharp, long and gentle, lots of small climbs, one big one) and the terrain if off road make too much difference to do it all by numbers.Posted 6 years agooldgitMember
Just looked at our maps, and bear in mind this is the South….Bedfordshire in fact. We avarage 2500′ – 2700′ on a normal 100km run. Average is 18.9mphPosted 6 years ago
We have a few shorter ‘hilly’ routes with figures not worth mentioning that are far harder, and slower, and painfuller.
When I was still vaguely fit I used to use the trudos mountain in Cyprus as a training ground for road. 40km from the coast where we were to the top. The first 30km had 2000m climbing and 1000m decent to leave you at 1000m altitude. The last 10km was a steady 1000m ascent which took circa 50mins and hurt like hell. Reverse in return so 4000m climbing over the ride of 80km and back in time for breakie (too hot for later in the day).
I wish I was that fit now. 😥Posted 6 years ago
Just for comparisons sake?
I’m either getting slower or my rides are getting hillier. Inbetween rainstorms yesterday I managed a 12.5 mile loop in an hour on the road bike and climbed/decended 350m. Took me an hour!
Now I know I’ll be slower on hills, and I was decending slowly due to the combination of slippy roads, wet brakes and sharp corners, and the first downhill turned out to be a farm track so I spent the next hour paranoid about punctures and ending up in a ditch whenever the speedo crept above 30.
But 12mph? My mum manages better average speeds than that!
For anyone local – Skelton-Boosbeck-Lingdale-Skelton-Saltburn-Guisbrough road, left at the trafic lights-Skelton.Posted 6 years agowhatnobeerMember
My local loop is 17.5 miles with about 270m of ascent. I’d say that was rolling. To be hilly it would need to be at least twice as much. Think the type of hills make a big difference too. The hills after the bealach na ba climb on the road back round to Torridon are very steep and short – thats very definitely hilly!Posted 6 years agomogrimMember
This is the data from a road ride I did at Easter, the first 40min are straight up a big hill:
Villar, Cabezabellosa, El Torno, Plasencia
Created by My Tracks on Android.
Total Distance: 54.27 km (33.7 mi)
Total Time: 2:11:58
Moving Time: 2:06:41
Average Speed: 24.67 km/h (15.3 mi/h)
Average Moving Speed: 25.70 km/h (16.0 mi/h)
Max Speed: 64.30 km/h (40.0 mi/h)
Min Elevation: 367 m (1206 ft)
Max Elevation: 993 m (3257 ft)
Elevation Gain: 875 m (2871 ft)
Max Grade: 7 %
Min Grade: -10 %
Recorded: Fri Apr 22 18:05:29 CEST 2011
Activity type: cycling
Full map here, click on the last leg to get the route profile.
Edit: once over the big hill, the rest of the ride is relatively flat.Posted 6 years ago
So with the exceptions of..
The TDF yesterday
Molgrips in the Alps
A mountian in Cyprus
My route is actualy the hillyest! (and the 2nd and 3rd oft hose I reckon you should halve the ‘hillyness’ as mine couns decents as well, those are just distances to the top)
The plan isn’t to do 1 lap BTW, the plan was to do multiple laps with relatively few difficult junctions so I could judge my fitness through the year, I only did one lap yesterday as it was bucketing it down and I had no gillet so the decents were a bit chilly!Posted 6 years agowhatnobeerMember
Just looked at the other 2 loops that I do. The 1st one is 24 miles and has 410m of ascent, the 2nd is 30 miles and has 640m of ascent. The 2nd loop is our ‘hilly’ loop, though its basically just two big ups and downs. Comparing to your 12.5 miles I’d say that counts as hilly 🙂Posted 6 years agoAndrewBFMember
I aim for 60-80ft climbed per mile. 60ft/mile is a minimum otherwise I feel that I’ve cheated myself, 80ft/mile is a good work out. 100ft/mile is just not fun.
This is averaged across the whole ride on a circular ride, so of course all that climbing will be matched with equivalent descents. If the measure is only climbing miles then this maps to 120-160ft/mile.
What does it all mean, I dunno. I just know that that is what I can usually accomplish around these parts and that is hilly enough for me.Posted 6 years agomogrimMember
I dont understand this So on a hilly 100 mile ride 20,000ft of climbing would equate to a hilly ride?
Seems to be way too much climbing – another route I’ve done a couple of times with two Cat 1 climbs has roughly 2000m over 100km, but that’s only half that. I’d certainly class it as a hilly ride.Posted 6 years ago
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