Watches N+1…

Only £7300 on the leather strap 😉

Stunning

It’s a 40mm case and short in the lugs so wears noticeably smaller than my Seamaster which is 42mm and 50mm lug to lug

not sure if it’s too small which is why the plastic isn’t off

I’m not saying they’re not nice, (although tbh I don’t actually like them that much) but **** me, being a designer in the Speedmaster dept at Omega is an easy gig isn’t it!? I swear they’ve got 2 or designs they just rotate through as new releases and people just haven’t noticed yet.

Like the Atoll a lot Kato, can we see it on wrist?   What size wrist do you have?

Okay so I have a 7in wrist

Atoll 40mm

Seamaster 42mm

The watches I’m used to wearing are a Seamaster and a Speedmaster both 42mm. A Tissot Visodate at 40mm but it’s all dial and a frankly gigantic Garmin Epix which is 47mm

maybe I just need to get used to the smaller case

I feel the same every time I wear my Sinn 556.  It’s 38.5mm which isn’t that small, but looks tiny compared to the normal wrist ornaments.  You get used to it soon enough though.

Merci. That’s the new Speedy and a Zenith El Primero Ti jobbie added to the list of ‘MUST NOT BUY!’…

Interesting Kato, your watches look like they wear bigger than mine and my wrist is 6 3/4.    I don’t think the Atoll looks small at all.

It’ll look great in a pool with a blue sky and palm tree backdrop 😁

Atoll looks a good size – not small at all

It looks great. I think any bigger with that striking dial colour might be a bit much.

Yeah also agree re the Atoll, looks much better on as well.

Quite taken by this from Christopher Ward…..need to sell a couple of watches before I buy another one….

https://www.christopherward.com/watches/c60-pro-300-bronze/C60-42ADC31B0BB0-HB.html

I had a cw bronze much like that.   An earlier one,  or had a flat blue dial and a bronze bezel insert like the yacht master.  Great watch,  really liked it and the sw200 was very very accurate.   Just big and heavy,  it was errr  45mm? And bronze is heavy.  Mainly though it went to make room for.. errr…. the captain Cook which I didn’t gel with.   I should have kept the cw.

There’s one on tzuk currently…. same guy a bought from last time…. and sold our back to…. not the same one though,  smaller this time.  I need to out a couple though.

This one is a look I wanted to try as well, love the colours in this leather.

Good God! That atol is a lovely colour. Great for the summer!

£7600 for a speedy.  Nice watch but that’s ridiculous. 

I was inspired by Kato to be a bit more colorful today.  I’d added a beads of rice to the 5kx;

Ooooooo I do like that Atoll. Size looks perfect – same size wrist as me which makes it more tempting…

Last mortgage payment this month…

Last mortgage payment this month…

Congrats!

Been toying with the idea of getting a Seiko, but I don’t know the intricacies so I thought I’d ask you lot…

Seiko 5

https://www.watchnation.com/product/seiko-5-sports-pepsi-bezel-automatic-mens-watch-srpd53k1/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInK2d_abnhgMVMYhQBh03kQz_EAQYCCABEgLLEPD_BwE

Seiko SKX009

https://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-mens-watches-208/seiko-automatic-divers-200m-made-in-japan-skx009-skx009j1-skx009j-mens-watch-1452.html?currency=GBP&feedsrc=uk-feed&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImMbmu6fnhgMVbZhQBh2iBQZDEAQYASABEgLk7vD_BwE

The face is very similar. Is there a noticeable difference in the movement?

Obviously the strap is different.

The differences in the movement are kinda equivalent to the differences in suspension designs between, I dunno, Specialized and Trek. Are they different? Yes? Will some people obsess over the difference? Yes. Will most people actually notice the difference in use? No.

As with the bikes, you’re buying a quality brand anyway, so unless you want to obsess over the differences, just buy the one you like the look of most at the price you want to pay.

The only caveat to that is that a Seiko Diver is a bit of a design ‘classic’, so if that kind of thing appeals then that might swing it (it did to me, so I bought one).

Thanks. I like the Diver a bit more too.

I bought the diver maybe 35 years ago and, GASP!, used it for diving. It’s my oldest watch that I still wear. It must have had half a dozen straps and reseals in that time but no services. It’s fine and still a favourite.

As the owner of several Citizens and Seikos at that price range I think the Citizen divers are better value for money. Being eco-drive they’re also more accurate and no fuss maintenance wise

Ah… and now I’m going to have a look at them too!

The Seiko 5 only has 100m water resistance and isn’t actually a ‘diver’s’ watch, but the movement does hacking and handwinding. Horses for courses really. I prefer the SKX too.

100m or 200m?

Wettest it will get is if I forget to take it off on holiday and I jump off a harbour wall. So… 2m.

I like them both, but I like the Diver just a tiny bit more.

Like comparing a Kit Kat, to a Kit Kat Chunky.

Like comparing a Kit Kat, to a Kit Kat Chunky.

There’s your problem. Shirley you should be looking at a Boost…? 🙃

There’s your problem. Shirley you should be looking at a Boost…? 🙃

Already got one of them.

The SKX has historic value but is a crappy proposition compared to a modern diver – old albeit reliable movement and no hacking – at that cost.  A citizen promaster, Seiko Turtle, Sumo or Samurai are “better” at that price point.  Try to find a version on Sale that has Sapphire Crystal, like those with a “King” prefix e.g. my King Samurai is ISO rated, Sapphire and ceramic bezel and was £380 on sale.

Not withstanding Seiko are about to launch the new SKX in a month or so.

The 5 will do everything you need, but isn’t an ISO diver and is a “cheaper” proposition – and entry level ish watch if you like.  That said, you’ll get many design variants to chose from and strap swaps are easy with drilled lugs.  It’s all worth bearing in mind that Seiko have a tendancy to understate specifications, many have been taken deeper with now issues but that’s at your risk of course.

Unless you’re in a scene from a WW2 film where you’re coordinating an attack on a bridge, the lack of hacking makes bugger all difference really.

I didn’t even know what hacking was!

If I’m going to blow up a bridge I’ll wear a G Shock.

Unless you’re in a scene from a WW2 film where you’re coordinating an attack on a bridge, the lack of hacking makes bugger all difference really

Now ya see – I blow up very few bridges, these days, but I wouldn’t buy another watch without hacking functionality.

I have a Seiko 5 Sports, it’s a great watch, but I prefer my Seiko King Samurai because the movement has hacking seconds.

@ Harry – PADI edition Sapphire King Sam in budget: https://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/0125561/Seiko-Prospex-Save-The-Ocean-King-Samurai-Special-Edition-Automatic-Mens-Watch/p?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlOGZla_ohgMVWYpQBh1EZQ8rEAQYBCABEgLSFfD_BwE

Lovely watch, is it you that has the G Shock metal collection?   If so the shape of the King Sam should appeal to you.

Or if you want a standard one for £312 – proprietary Hardlex mineral Crystal no Sapphire: https://www.francisandgaye.co.uk/seiko-prospex-mens-prospex-44mm-divers-watch-black-dial-SRPF03K1-p33699/s40701?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=seiko-prospex-men-apos-s-prospex-44mm-divers-watch-black-dial-srpf03k1&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB&vs_vat=inc&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1ZPZ9q_ohgMVUZdoCR2k6giVEAQYAyABEgLKFfD_BwE

If you fancy a cushion case shape, there’s a £335 King Turtle here: https://www.ernestjones.co.uk/seiko-prospex-save-the-ocean-king-turtle-blue-strap-watch/p/V-1663577?wgu=287575_196673_17188246146842_baaf72f2ba&wgexpiry=1750360614&cm_mmc=WG-_-Affiliate-_-RedBrain%20Ltd&utm_source=webgains&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=91999

Fill your (watch box) boots.

Or I bought a red Promaster tax free on a cruise about a month ago which realistically I’m never going to wear 😂

https://www.hsamuel.co.uk/citizen-promaster-diver-mens-black-polyurethane-strap-watch/p/V-5090814

this one.  Retail is £350.  I’ve tried it on once and then it’s sat in the box.  I can do it for my STW chums for what I paid plus RMSD so around £170.  It’s unmarked and as new.

Inspiration is welcome. I have a big birthday coming up and a gap in my collection for a quality mechanical diver. Budget up to £1200. My preferences are as follows:

– At least 300m

– At least 43mm

–  Black dial and bezel

– Steel Case

– Centre Seconds

I’m not a bracelet fan, but could always swap it out. A splash of colour is nice. Second-hand is fine.

I like simple and tool-like without being macho (I dive more often than I sit at a desk)

Any suggestions welcome!

I like these examples as well as the black Pelagos

@pisco, you’d get a nice Squale for that.  These at Jura are possible with 10-20% off the price you see:

Squale

Italian, great history and very well respected divers. Lots of choice.

Or a limited edition Certina PH1000, numbered again with history: https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/products/certina-watch-ds-ph1000m-orange-limited-edition-c024-907-17-281-10

https://www.seikowatches.com/uk-en/products/prospex/spb383j1

these Seiko GMT divers are nice at £1400.  Although only 200m and 42mm. Can get you 20% off at Goldsmiths if you’re ordering online too.

Thanks folks. The Squale Matic is firmly on my radar. Will check out the others too, ta

Under budget, a Magrette Moana Pacific Professional Titanium.

https://magrette.com/shop/moana-pacific-professional-titanium-black-3?in=370040261