Hi all,thanks for advice,yes i am s/e, main job is big one site job2days,few smaller jobs,at most8/10 of them over 3 days,so not much in out with mowers,,.friend has said vaux engine is underpowered to him,tho compared to his prev vw caddy,.apart from that he is happy,brother has citroen berlingo,says parts are expensive,compared to prev van.will have to check on waste disp,my local council even make us pay for household garden waste,so certain would have too there,plenty of fly tipping goes on tho,not sure on estate car,did look into it,butthink van more what i need,or even car derived van,thanks all