anyone watching the debate or the riot?

The protest of course Police out of order charging the protesters!!!
But hey thats what you get with the Tories

no too busy procrastinating at work for that kind of thing

postierich – Member
The protest of course Police out of order charging the protesters!!!
But hey thats what you get with the Tories

Ah – I hadn’t realised that the whole police force was re-recruited each time there was a new government. Thanks for clearing that up.

but the protesters not out of order for throwing stuff at police? flares,snooker balls,bottles,mmm nice,the police should batter a few of the lazy tax doging feckers!!

i’m sure there are some bad eggs on both sides.

who reckons the bloody bankers should be footing the bill eh?

The protest of course Police out of order charging the protesters!!!
But hey thats what you get with the Tories

Dude, that’s nothing. The previous lot used to shoot you in the head for catching the tube to work 😉

Can we try and discuss this without such pejorative language?

I should go to Uni what the **** is pejorative????

I can tell you but it will cost you £2,000.

1. Tending to make or become worse.
2. Disparaging; belittling.

frogfarmer – you are robbing me of my livelihood.

Haha,sorry,i just got in there first,i always sell myself short.

It amazes me they way that people keep banging on the Tories this the Tories that, except the fact that the country is f***ing skint thanks to the Banks and the Labour Goverment and like it or not the money has to come from somewhere or things will be a lot worse, its a bit of “get it from somewhere else as long as it doesn’t effect me”. Man up, if you don’t like it go out and get a job.

Rant over

I should go to Uni what the **** is pejorative????

sorry, didn’t mean to do that. It’s just that some of the rhetoric on here is deleterious to the discourse

I will offer a buy one get one free on that post.

except the fact that the country is f***ing skint thanks to the Banks and the Labour Goverment

The way I look at it, it’s down to governments going back to the 70s. Blaming it on Labour is a bit ignorant. Perhaps you should go to uni and study some history and economics.

except the fact that the country is f***ing skint thanks to the Banks and the Labour Goverment and like it or not the money has to come from somewhere or things will be a lot worse

This is a common argument, but This then implies that when the country is no longer skint, then we will reduce the fees, so it will only be the students from these few years who will need pay. Secondly, the money still comes out of the state, students will not pay the money back for ages. None of the money that will be repaid is going to go towards the current skintness.

rhetoric-the art of language
deleterious-having a harmful effect
discourse-verbal exchange

im tired now i need a lay down!

Lay – To have sexual intercourse with
Down – small soft feathers, especially those from a young bird

Featherfaker

druid
Last time I remember police on horse back charging protesters was Poll Tax riots,Wapping,Miners strike and if I,m correct they all happened under a Tory Government.

Football does not count!

oh dear. Put on the dunce hat and go stand in the corner.

skint thanks to the Banks and the Labour Goverment and like it or not the money has to come from somewhere or things will be a lot worse, its a bit of “get it from somewhere else as long as it doesn’t effect me”. Man up, if you don’t like it go out and get a job.

oooh i enjoyed that,much more fun than rioting!

Looks like they’ve got a nice bonfire.
That christmas tree nearby should go up a treat 🙂

Good to see that the students are trying to make themselves heard.

Wonder how many students the police have injured…

The universities don’t need more money, increasing fees is not going to save the government money. For every £1 of government subsidy/loans etc a university will put back £7.50. Increasing fees is a total waste of time and is not going to save the country from the debt generated correcting the previous Tory government’s mistakes.

I will admit part of the reason I put the last post was to get reaction. I’m sick of hearing about the Tories being responsible for the current cuts. All parties are as bad as each other you can’t point the finger in one direction. I don’t agree with politicians going back on their election promises and the Tories have done that, but labour would have done the same. The only difference is that labour are better at organising strikes and riots 😉

the country is f***ing skint thanks to the Banks and the Labour Goverment

Indeed. I bet the Greeks, Spanish, Portuguese, Irish, and Icelanders, are all very please that Labour wasn’t in charge of their countries during the Global Credit Crunch. Otherwise they would all be “skint” today.

the new loans/fees system will mean most graduates pay back a lot less.

can i transfer my graduate debt to the new system that this lot are rioting about please?

and it was Labour that introduced fees and loans.

Student loans were introduced in the early 90’s under the Tories. I think my first one in my final year in 1992 was circa £500 for the year!

it was Labour that introduced fees and loans

Which is why some people voted LibDem and not Labour.

Nick Clegg said that he wanted A FAIRER ALTERNATIVE

No mention of putting fees up.

The universities don’t need more money

Hmm, that’s not what various chancellors say when they come on telly.

can i transfer my graduate debt to the new system that this lot are rioting about please?

I don’t think they are rioting about the system, they are rioting about the amounts involved.

the amounts are irrelevant.

i will never clear my debt, as i’m reminded every year, and i don’t owe as much as most of today’s graduates.

this new system is graduate tax in everything but name.

The amounts are relevant, as they dictate how likely you are to be able to clear it. Obvious, no?

well yes. obviously.

but the typical debt is already so high that most will never pay it off

i won’t, and i owe a lot less than the people who graduated this year.

i don’t mind, it’s ok – i’ve got no complaints.

result due soon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11566509

Ooh!

Government majority of 21 in the first vote.

Close! 323 to 302. The Ayes have it.

How many absentions?