- Towel radiators – copper?
wifes seen some chappy making stuff out of copper pipes on one of her facebook groups, towel rails being one such item (22mm and 15mm, brass clips and vents, fully pressure tested etc)
our white one is rusty and looks like a bag of sh1t now, price seems good, im just wondering why they generally dont seem to be made out of copper, you either get white or silver?
ive looked back at old threads and there doesnt seem to be a lot of love for towel rails, dont put out much heat, better off with a proper radiator etc…. but, its only a small bathroom, we have plenty of wet towels (4 adults in the house) and summats to dry the towels appeals more than a radiator.
any reason not to go copper?
thanksPosted 3 months agotjagainMember
The problem with making it out of ordinary copper pipe and bits is that the hot water will short circuit thru it so only the top rail will get hot unless you put restrictions in it.
YOu can get big cheap chrome ones that work fine if you look around – I have a 1.6m x o.6 m one that I got for £100 and a 2.2 m x 0.6 m one for £200. they put out plenty of heatPosted 3 months agofanatic278Member
Lacquer on raw metal might be a bit fragile. With all the heating and cooling I wonder if it would just flake off over time…..? I bought a brushed steel filing cabinet off etsy that was lacquered and it flaked off immediately – sent it back and they waxed it instead (which would be no good on a towel rail).Posted 3 months agotjagainMember
A towel rail has to ensure the flow goes evenly around all the pipes. It does this by having narrow sections of tubing ( hidden) If it all just 22mm pipe the hot water will just take the easiest path and will not flow thru all sections
Thats what my heating engineer said. I am not explaining it well
An ordinary radiator is vertical tubes – a towel rail horizontalPosted 3 months agoswedishmetalMember
Towel rails can be a bit pants so unless you have a huge one (which can be difficult to hang a lot of towels on!) then they don’t heat up the room very well.
What I did in my new bathroom I fitted was to put a big Victorian column style rad in which properly kicks out a lot of heat, then mount a wide towel rail above it. Room gets warm, towels get dried and warm too. I did struggle to find a rail longer than 600mm so I bought a 600mm one and replaced the chrome bar with a longer length of polished stainless tube of the same diameter. Enough for 2 large bath sheets folded in half to be hung on, could probably fit more smaller or more folded towels.Posted 3 months agowobbliscottMember
Copper is a good material to make a rad out of, but its expensive so that would be the main reason not to use it routinely. It’s robust enough for sure…I’ve a copper gas pipe running on the outside of my house which sometimes gets bumped by wheelie bins and so far showing no signs of any scratches, dents or damage. And of course is open to the elements and no sign of corrosion or deterioration…I don’t think there is a huge copper content in piping anyway.
Rads are pressurised and there is a pressure difference between the top and bottom of any radiator and the flow of water through a radiator will be higher at the bottom of the rad than the top…but that doesn’t matter as they are made of metal which conducts heat efficiently so the heat will soak through the whole rad so its temperature is even. the same would apply with a towel rad made from copper pipes.
The main problem is that something of a circular cross section has low surface area compared to volume so you’re not maximising the radiation of the heat for the volume of water in the rad. If you’re towel rad is not very good it’s simply not large enough and often they’re covered in towels, but no reason why a towel rail shouldn’t heat a room well. We’ve got one in our bathroom and it does a great job of heating the room. The ‘runs’ of the rad are not circular tubes but flat thin tubes so a lot of surface area and we make sure we manage towels on the rad so its not constantly covered in towels, but it gets the room nice and toasty.Posted 3 months agourbanistMember
We have a bog-standard white one (60cm X 170cm) that works splendidly. Thermostat on the bottom corner that goes up to 5: The bathroom is noticeably hot at any setting above 1, and on 5 it would melt glass even when it’s minus 20C outside.
So functionally: ours is excellent; recommended.Posted 3 months ago
Aesthetically: not the biggest fan of the copper “steam-punk” option.
hmmmm wife has decided its too ‘steampunk’ as someone mentioned above, so bog standard white or silver it is…..
struggling to find one in our size tho, bit irregular. its 560mm by 1600 high.
any recommendations for somewhere that sells that size at a decent price? and are they easy enough to do with no prior knowledge?Posted 3 months agoBlazin-saddlesMember
I fit a lot of these for customers, they’re really good quality for the money and available in lots of sizes and colours.Posted 3 months ago
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