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[Closed] Titanium Wedding Rings - are the dangers an urban myth?

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Just looking at ordering my wedding ring and my jeweler just told me they don't sell titanium because it is dangerous as it is very difficult to cut off in an accident.

A quick web search states this as well as numerous comments it being a myth.

Any thoughts?


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:29 pm
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I'll ask the Mrs tonight but I'm sure I rember her talking about them being difficult to get off.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:35 pm
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Well I've got a Ti wedding ring and its not soemthing I worry about.

Why would it be hard to cut off, its less dense than steel?

If I had a tungsten ring it might worry me


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:35 pm
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Utter drivel... Find a new jeweller...


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:36 pm
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If I had a tungsten ring it might worry me

you can get ointment for that.....


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:37 pm
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I'm still alive... plus with a bit of metal polish it looks instantly good as new.

Mind you my uncle broke his finger pretty badly and A&E did say they were pleased he didn't have a Ti wedding ring as they are apparently noticeably harder/slower to get off.

Jewellers don't like Ti rings because they're cheap 😉 I got told the same.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:37 pm
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Boll0cks.

Tungsten Carbide maybe, but Titanium rings are not that tough. Just google it.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:39 pm
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Do I not remember someone off here telling a tale of having difficulty removing one in A&E?


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:39 pm
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i have a titanium wedding ring. i think some jewellers avoid supplying them because they are not easy to work with using traditional jewellry techniques.

Mine is made by a machine shop in brum, and bought from a jewellers in the quarter.

titanium is not quite the insane wonder metal people like to think it is. You coudl easily dremel it off if that worries you.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:39 pm
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mines is Ti 925.

never heard of this before and dont think mutch of it.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:40 pm
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I'd be more worried about the dangers of marriage to be honest 😆


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:40 pm
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Thinking more about my uncle I have a vague recollection that it was something to do with ti sparking more when they cut it off. Could be totally wrong, mind...


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:42 pm
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They're tougher to cut off but no impossible, not selling one for this reason is just OTT


 
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Do I not remember someone off here telling a tale of having difficulty removing one in A&E?

+1


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:44 pm
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Mine's titanium. I think it's the Tungsten ones that are a bit naughty.

As a bonus, titanium is tougher than whatever they make beer bottle caps out of so I'm now never without a bottle opener 😀


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:45 pm
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[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/just-arrived-home-from-a-e-numpty-content ]It was a tungsten ring that caused the bother[/url]


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:47 pm
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ive got a tungsten ring but hey i cut the roofs of cars at work so a little ring will be no problem for our cutting gear 😉


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:51 pm
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They are a bit a of a faff for jeweller as they can't be resized.

I have one and I'd go with it being harder to remove in an accident than more conventional material choices. The person above comparing to steel has got it a little wrong - when did someone fit a tight steel band around their finger? Titanium is a lot tougher to cut than soft precious metals like gold and silver. Looking at my ring now and I think I'd be there for quite a while with a dremel. I use a bit of titanium at work and it blunts tools much faster than steel. A couple of local bike shops won't face ti frames because of what it does to facing tools (though would happily face a steel frame).


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:52 pm
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There is a video on the 'Tube about getting a tungsten ring off - squeese it with some mole-grips and it snaps pretty quickly.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 3:53 pm
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i have one and all because of the abyss

ed harris' character has a Ti ring, when a hydraulic pressure door traps him on the wrong side hes able to jam his finger in before it shuts and his ring keeps the door open long enough for him to cut the hose taht powers it

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one day it may save my life! 😉


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 4:14 pm
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Was ok reading that link until the word(s?) "de-gloved" appeared.
Nooooo nnngggghhh, gag.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 4:16 pm
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I've had one for 8+ years , with a silver band set into it. Still looks good as new.

Make sure you get the right size 'cos as already mentioned I don't think they are easy to re-size.

The only problem I find is that it marks everything - particularly ceramic e.g. when shaving in the sink, washing mugs etc. I tend to take it off for washing-up duties.

Not had to have it cut off in A&E yet - I'll let you know experiences when I do 😀


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 4:19 pm
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ive got a tungsten ring but hey i cut the roofs of cars at work so a little ring will be no problem for our cutting gear

Yup the jaws of life or perfect for such delicate procedures. 😆


 
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Any ring will deglove you.

I have a titanium ring (£22 from ebay), my brother has the same. Really pleased with them, we don't really do jewelery so didn't want to spend too much in case we didn't get along with them but these have been great. It is a 4mm Court Shaped one from elma.jewellery.ltd my brother has bigger fingers and got a 6mm one. Find out your abc size from any high street jeweller.

I do remember looking at £2K Platinum rings on the high street, then I mentioned titanium and this poncey jeweller said they tarnish! He was just gutted that they look like platinum but are so cheap. He did then start to mention a 'metal' called Palladium.... all I could think of was Jimmy Tarbuck and the Royal Variety Performance!

As an mtber platinum or gold means nothing to me other than the colour of the borecaps on my Hope callipers - titanium on the other hand is what they make top end bike bits from so it is like gold to me. Get one and save yourself enough money for a new bike! Unless your fiance is a biker she won't go for it on her finger though!


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 4:34 pm
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damn right drac 😉


 
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I quite like some of the stuff that's been intricately worked.. and I would imagine it would come off more easily in an emergency due to it's construction..

Otherwise it kind of reminds me of aftermarket exhaust cans for motorbikes..


 
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I bought this for the missus the other day... I am yet to find out if she likes it...[img] [/img]
Ah Ti goodness....


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 5:51 pm
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662 titanium ring here. Looks like new. Got it from Canada [url= http://www.titaniumrings.com ]Titanium rings[/url]. Not sure if they still do 6/6/2 - maybe 6/4 is the toughest they do nowadays. Must say, I wouldn't want to have to cut it in a hurry. I can stand on it and it doesn't deform one iota.

Edit - I see these guys sell 6/6/2 rings [url= http://www.titaniumstyle.com/ti-grades.htm ]Linky[/url]


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 5:54 pm
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My wife sells a lot if Ti rings in her shop, Ti is harder to cut off but shouldn't be a major issue. If you need any help my email is in the profile.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 6:06 pm
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Myth or not my friend lost his finger due to a titanium ring.

It got caught taking something off the roof of a landrover and the ambulance couldn't cut the ring off without cutting off his finger (which isn't the issue they said with gold or other rings)

So he no longer has a finger!

Maybe he was just unlucky but seeing him everyday means I wouldn't have one


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 6:14 pm
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Gold's nice. Some of the alloys are harder wearing, but still cuttable. Or is that just too unfashionable?


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 6:27 pm
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It got caught taking something off the roof of a landrover and the ambulance couldn't cut the ring off without cutting off his finger (which isn't the issue they said with gold or other rings)

You what? We generally don't carry ring cutters and certainly wouldn't cut someone's finger off.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 6:54 pm
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I have a Ti one but I don't wear it except for special occasions and family dos.

And I also had it slight resized by a jeweller. His take was that his machinery was designed for gold but he could still stretch it a little. It worked too, just enough to ease the fit slightly.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 6:55 pm
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get one made from what ever ti they used on the rear drop out of my ti 456 it broke easily enough


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 7:09 pm
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Drac - can't comment on what they can and can't do but they knew the issue before they came to the scene (it was in reading about 5mins from the hospital)

They had no choice apparently (he was 'hanging' from the roof bars on the landrover). I assume they knew what they were doing.

Anyway it's put me off ti rings!


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 7:14 pm
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uwe-r - my ring is very similar to yours, except it has a flat top rather than a curve...


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 9:17 pm
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Yes, our local A&E struggled to cut the 2 platinum rings from my wife's finger, but they did manage it after much sweating (no electronic cutters there!). The rings were a right mess, but then again so was her finger! Platinum or not the best advice would be to remove rings them before riding /climbing etc (I keep forgetting to follow this advice). But not selling platinum because it is 'dangerous' sounds like a right a load of rubbish.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 9:26 pm
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WTF would anyone want a wedding ring, let alone one that might be harder to remove? 😕


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 9:37 pm
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Even better if the Ti is made out of re cycled soviet nuclear missile! 8)


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 9:47 pm
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Tungsten is most definately not the same as tungsten carbide. Nor is tungsten carbide the same as titanium. Titanium is in many ways similar to tungsten though.

One day I'm going to treat myself to one or two of these I think.
[url= http://www.boonerings.com/cr/cr.html ]Ti loveliness[/url]

And possibly one of these too...
[url= http://www.boonerings.com/extreme.htm ]meteorite ring[/url]


 
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I'd love a ring with an actual Mars meteorite in it. They cost a bit.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 10:25 pm
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My wedding ring was titanium, came off my bike and my hand swelled up so needed to go to the hospital to have it cut off. Took them over an hour to cut through it.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 11:09 pm
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Its the dura ace chain around the wrist you have to worry about if you break yer hand.

The doctors go nuts.


 
Posted : 04/04/2011 11:15 pm
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We used 5 new super duper version ring cutter/ jewellers saw blades to remove a £5 Ring a guy had on after his finger swelled, the local a&e sent them to us as they knew the time involved to remove it.

It's not just the material that's the issue, although it doesn't help. gold and silver can be cut through in 5-6 rotations of a 50p sized cutting disc (jewellers saw). Access is the biggest issue, disc cutters and other power tools can not be used safely due to the risk of slipping.

After my last experience of a titanium ring removal I changed my mind on what my wedding ring would be made of.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:26 am
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it is very difficult to cut off in an accident.

Is that the 'I married the wrong woman' sort of accident?

My wedding ring fell off my finger whilst swimming on our honeymoon in 1986. never to be seen again, she still occasionally asks we're going to replace it 🙂


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:46 am
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when you mean tungsten carbide, do you mean...
- 100% tungsten carbide
- tungsten carbide with about 10-15% nickel and/or titanium binder


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:56 am
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Tungsten rings is pretty easy to remove in an emergency


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 7:01 am
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I'd be more worried about the dangers of marriage to be honest

Seconded!
BTW My wedding ring is titanium and it scratches anything glass ever so easily (having a little diamond help scratching I suppose).


 
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When I was an apprentice (1973) we where told gory stories and shown pictures of what can happen to your finger if your ring gets caught on plant or equipment, that was enough to put me off. I had a wedding ring when I got married but never used to wear it and I haven't seen it for over 20 years.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 7:41 am
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Drac we actually carry ring cutters in the first aid gear


 
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It cost me about £40k to get a gold ring removed.
Much happier now though.....


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 7:49 am
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Drac we actually carry ring cutters in the first aid gear

You do yes, Ambulance crews as a rule don't. There's a rabbit off with that story as we certainly don't remove fingers.


 
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We don't either that I know of lol


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 8:03 am
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Exactly so as I say there's something missing or added to that story.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 8:11 am
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my grandfather got a crane hook caught in his ring (gold). It hoisted him a few feet in the air before he was lowered again. he still has the ring and it is obelisk shaped and around 3 inches long. almost lost hid finger doing that.

therefore gold is dangerous too...


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 8:33 am
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I don't wear any rings or other jewellery - lots of good reasons not to if you work with electricity or do 'active' stuff.

If all you do is ponce about nightclubs and restaurants, and never do any DIY or other stuff, by all means drape yourself in metal trinkets.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 8:39 am
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I might have lost a finger if hadn't of had a boring common 'soft' gold wedding ring.

Just something silly as loading my Land Rover up as I jumped off the roof rack my ring got caught on it. It was 15stone of momentum and gravity vs finger vs gold ring.

The gold ring lost and snapped in two. (thankfully)

Still bloody hurt though!!


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 8:41 am
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Hmm! It seem Land Rover roof racks are the problem then, ban them I say next time it could be a child's face.


 
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I personally have a platinum ring which gets a good polish on a regular basis, but can get tight in warm weather due to swelling and all that is required is some spit to aid lubrication. 😉


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 9:35 am
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Drac - the story is what it is. Not sure what incentive there is for me to say any different.

I'm guessing accidents can all be different and decisions are made that relate to the situation as it is. I don't work in that sector.

At the end of the day the guy doesn't have his ring finger anymore.


 
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I actually contacted London Fir Brigade to get there position on this - basically not really a problem.

Dear Eric

This email is in response to the enquiry that you made regarding Titanium Rings. There has been much speculation about Titanium being too strong to cut through. Various manufactures claim that a standard ring cutting tool can be used to remove titanium rings from one’s person.

However, there are a variety of ways of removing Titanium rings that are less destructive:

If you need to remove a titanium ring from a severely swollen hand or finger, raise the arm and hold the hand in the air, which forces blood to flow away from the finger and back into the body.

After a few minutes, the swelling should be reduced. If the finger is still significantly swollen, soak it in ice water for a few minutes to reduce inflammation.

· Once the swelling has gone down slightly, apply a lubricant around the finger and knuckle. Effective lubricants include Vaseline, hand lotion, liquid soap, olive oil or saliva.

· Hold the titanium ring with a towel and pull with a gentle, yet forceful twisting motion. Once the ring passes over the swollen knuckle, it will usually slide easily over the rest of the finger.

If this fails to remove the problematic ring then there is a slightly more technical method using string or dental floss:

For best results, use the flat version of dental floss, as this rests more snugly against the finger. You will need at least 2 feet of dental floss for this technique.

· Begin by sliding a few inches of dental floss under the ring, toward the body. The long end should extend toward the swollen joint.

· Grab the long end of the floss and wrap it tightly around the finger, starting just above the titanium ring.

· The dental floss should be extremely snug against the finger; the goal is to compress the swelling as much as possible. Each row of floss should sit snugly against the previous row.

· Continue wrapping until just beyond the swollen finger joint. Take hold of the short end of the dental floss, which should still be tucked under the ring. Use a gentle, slow motion to unwrap the dental floss from the finger.

· As the floss unwinds from the finger, the ring should be pushed along with it. Once the ring passes over the swollen joint, remove it and quickly unwrap the rest of the dental floss.

If these initial attempts fail then there may, in an emergency situation, be a requirement to cut the ring off. It has been suggested that anything with the capability of cutting steal should be sufficient to cut titanium. The London Fire Brigade currently carries standard jewelers ring cutters, hacksaws and bolt croppers on frontline appliances all of which are able to cut steel.

Although these methods may not seem favorable, therefore your email has highlighted the requirement to explore the possibility of more innovative methods to deal with such incidents because of the recent popularity in the use of Titanium for jewelry.

I hope that this answers your question satisfactorily. If you require any further information please feel free to contact me directly.

Regards


 
Posted : 07/04/2011 12:18 pm
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More than happy with my Ti wedding ring. Much better than the gold one i had last time. 🙂 Seems to have lasted longer too (and so has the ring).


 
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surely any ring would be harder to get off than no ring at all, therefore dont sell rings. health and safety sorted. personally i try not to get into a position where i would need to have mine cut off. its worked for me so far.


 
Posted : 07/04/2011 12:28 pm
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A guy I worked with as an apprentice had a missing ring finger and a (gold) wedding ring stretched into a teardrop shape..... He had clambered up on some racking to look for parts in a factory - jumped down without realising he was snagged and left his finger behind!

I now work in a heavy engineering lab and have no desire to wear a ring, watch or anything else dangly and metal.


 
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My Ti ring gave me calluses when I biked with it, so I started taking it off when I went biking… and lost it. Which is the best thing that could have ever happened to it as far as I am concerned. My ring finger knuckle is on the large side after I gave it a dunt a few years back, hence a ring to go over it was loose on the skinny finger beyond. The ring would move around all the time and bug me… definitely best off without… although the bitching about having lost it has never stopped, and probably never will.

I've not lost the engagement watch though 8)


 
Posted : 07/04/2011 1:56 pm