Thinking of a Garmin Edge Explore, Anything else I should buy?

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  • Thinking of a Garmin Edge Explore, Anything else I should buy?
  • fudge9202
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    Reviews of this seem good and I don’t need stuff for Strava , anything else I should consider

    Premier Icon ransos
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    What do you want it to do? I need to replace my ageing 800 and this looks like it fits the bill. My main requirement is navigation. I can live without Strava live and the training stuff.

    fudge9202
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    Same here no interest In Strava, like the navigation side to it plus the feature to be able to set a specific distance from home and be given several loops to choose from showing elevation as well

    I’ve been really happy with my Wahoo Elemnt, not ludicrous cash with sensors or not should you wish. Great battery life and ideal if you plan and then ride as it is app based as opposed to on device navigation – if that is something you want I’d head to a pricier Garmin and OS maps.

    James

    Premier Icon Bez
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    ideal if you plan and then ride as it is app based as opposed to on device navigation

    Huh?

    fudge9202
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    @Bez are you stillrunning the Edge Explore, if so what do you think of it.
    Confused 😐

    Premier Icon johnnystorm
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    New Wahoo Roam has colour maps and improved navigation options. What the chap above was saying is that the elemnt works best with you having a set route to follow. It’s not ideal for choosing routes on the fly or making off the cuff changes. If Strava uploads and the like aren’t what you’re after it might be worth investigating the non-edge models. My Dakota has been perfectly reliable compared to my edge. The elemnt has also been great.

    damascus
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    Hi fudge, a group of us recently road c2c in a day. Early start, late finish. Every garmin ran out of power and we had to hook up the cache battery. Every wahoo had at least 30% battery left. All devices vary in ages but didn’t seem to make a difference to the wahoo battery life.

    I’ve had various garmins over the years. Currently have a garmin 810. Recent updates mean I can send rides to the garmin without having to plug it in to a computer via Bluetooth.

    I think if I was going to replace I’d seriously consider a wahoo but would depend on deals.

    Garmin have a good replacement deal. Last time I looked you could return a broken unit and for around £90 they would send you a reconditioned unit with 3 month warranty. No idea if this includes a new battery. Others may be able to confirm.

    Have you considered a good waterproof phone mount from topeak and just using an app? Maybe take a cache battery for longer rides? My friend uses his like this and it works just as well.

    Premier Icon Bez
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    Bez are you still running the Edge Explore, if so what do you think of it.

    Yeah, still using it, still really liking it. Definitely the best unit I’ve owned or used so far. It has a few quirks but they’re very minor, and aside from that it’s really easy to use and basically does what I want. Compared to earlier Garmins the touchscreen is staggeringly good and the responsiveness of the unit is a big step forward: route calculation is quicker and panning/zooming the map could almost be called slick.

    I plan routes on RideWithGPS and get them onto the Edge wirelessly via RouteCourse (I’ve paid for the full feature set, but can’t remember the difference between the free and paid versions), or you can send GPX files to Connect on your phone and sync that way. Though I don’t think that will support course points, which I’ve recently rediscovered and find really useful. Instead of using them for navigation directions (as Wahoo devices do) I mark towns/villages, so the cue sheet on the device always tells me how far it is to any places where I can get food etc. Works great for big rides.

    As noted above, the hiking/outdoor devices might be worth considering, as they have a slightly bigger feature set and more battery options. But they’re bulky and the handlebar mounts are kinda clunky (whereas my edge sits unobtrusively on my stems). If you’re doing big touring and you have one bike they’re a great choice; if you’re doing big day rides or have multiple bikes they’re less appealing.

    The Wahoo Roam may be worth a look. For me it retains far too many of the things I didn’t like about the Elemnt and Bolt, so although my interest was briefly piqued, on closer inspection it’s a non-starter; but the screen looks awesome.

    Some additional points on the Explore in the thread below:

    Garmin Edge Explore?

    Premier Icon Bez
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    Every garmin ran out of power and we had to hook up the cache battery. Every wahoo had at least 30% battery left. All devices vary in ages but didn’t seem to make a difference to the wahoo battery life.

    Battery life is one of the things I’ve sometimes found a bit iffy about Edges… I seem to recall the 200 was great (pretty sure I did 36 hours on less than one full recharge) but the 800 and Touring only ever seemed to knock out about 10 hours compared to a claim of something like (IIRC) 15.

    From using the Explore, it looks like it should meet its claims of 10-14 hours depending on battery saver mode, but I confess I’ve not yet done a day with it that has required a recharge (longest was about 7 hours, I think, though I’ll top that in a couple of weeks’ time).

    If battery life is a big deal then the 530 and 830 are worth a look. They’re claiming 20-40 hours depending on battery saver mode, which is impressive. I tried the 530 but hated the buttons, and while the 830 solves that issue it’s also nearly twice the current price of the Explore, and the Explore has a bigger screen.

    The £170 saving from buying the Explore gets you a very nice backup battery for the occasional times you need it 🙂

    fudge9202
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    Cheers Damascus and Bez. With things the way they are at home with the wife my rides will top out at 3-4 hours while someone cares for her, so battery life not a massive issue and can always grab a power bank if things improve with home life. Think I’ll grab one in Halfords, kids got me vouchers for Father’s Day 👍

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    I tried the 530 but hated the buttons

    I have a 530 because I am scarred from my ownership of a touch screen 820.  The 530 is a big improvement in usability over the 820 and the battery life is in another league.  Still about £100 more than the edge explore though so if you don’t want all the extra bells and whistles it’s a bit hard to justify.

    Premier Icon Bez
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    My only experience of the 820 was playing with it on the display stand in Halfords. The touchscreen was terrible. Utterly terrible. Completely and utterly terrible. I mean, as in I basically couldn’t use the device. I ran away and never entertained the thought of buying one. I can fully see why you’d find the 530 an improvement.

    The Explore’s touchscreen is very, very, very good. Rain, gloves, no problem. Much easier to use with gloves than the resistive touchscreens on the 800/Touring. Coming from that, I found the 530 a truly painful experience.

    ijl1969
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    A slight aside but does anyone know of an App which has the same functionality as the Garmin circular route, i.e. type in a distance and it will give several circular route options. Plenty of Apps where you can import or navigate between points but not found anything that gives the circular option unless I’m missing something….!

    I’ve had a edge explore for a year now and I would heavily recommend it, I use mine for navigation only like you plan too, it’s reliable, the screen size bigger than the 830 and 520 so easy to read off-road when it’s bumpy too, can’t fault it at all and for the price it’s a bargain

    Premier Icon Bez
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    Bit of a hiccup yesterday after upgrading the firmware. Battery saver mode seems to have swapped one bug for the opposite, and much worse, one. Still pretty much faultless if you turn battery saver off, though.

    Premier Icon johnw1984
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    Thinking of upgrading to one of these from My Edge 820 Explore. Only reason being is that mine as a crack in the screen (still works though).

    These seem a lot more responsive and have a nice big screen. Mine has been really useful and I’ve not encountered too many bugs really.

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