- They’re the same car different badge
There are also the ‘family motors’. These use the same floorpan but different bodywork to make cars.
Latest Fiat 500 & Ford Ka
Focus & Mazda 3
Mondeo & Jag (Not sure if this is still the case)
Just about every VW & Skoda & Seat have some relationship in their chassis of one model or other
PSA Group cars
Even a Mercedes Sprinter and VW Crafter van are the same chassis and body. Just remodelled front end and different drivetrain
Its cheaper for two or three manufacturers to split development three ways than to all design one each.Posted 9 years agoglenhSubscriber
VW golf/audi A3/seat leon/skoda octavia But the Octavia is a much bigger car, is it not the fabia or whatever its called, I would have thought octavia/passatt/a4 same.
Nope. the octavia is built on the golf platform. The only reason it’s bigger is the ‘saloon style’ gives a bigger boot.Posted 9 years agoGary_MMember
The 2CV only really had a few derivatives – Dyane, Mehari, Bijou, Ami was on a different chassis and running gear. The twin engined 4×4 you mentioned was a Sahara but it was still a 2CV really. Oh and there were 2cv and Dyane vans/pick-ups. And since they were all still made by Citroen it doesn’t really count.Posted 9 years agoDangerMember
Just been thinking about a post yesterday on the what van thread where it was said that renault trafic/vauxhall vivaro/nissan primastar were are all made in the same plant with the same engines and only minor cosmetic differences.
Ones I know of:
Mazda 121/Ford Fiesta
Ford Maverick 4×4 just re-badged Nissan Terrano
Citreon C1 and 2 others, a peugeot and some other I can’t remember on top gear
So what other cars/vans etc are effectively the same?Posted 9 years ago
Vehicles that are based on the same floor pan doesn’t make them remotely similar!
But driving a leon/golf/A3, if you had your eye’s shut*, could you actually tell the difference. The old leon even had the same dashboard as the A3 so no needs to shut your eyes in that one.
*don’t try this anywhere (disclaimer for the numpties out there)Posted 9 years agostevehSubscriber
As mentioned truly the same is different to same families. While most VAG stuff is similar and share components very little of it is truly the same. The superb is a stretched passast chassis. The octavia is a standard golf chassis (I believe) but with much bigger over hangs to increase the size.
The ones that are the same are more common in the van world. Peugeot, citroen and fiat share a whole range as do nissan/renault/vauxhall. Mercedes sprinter and vw crafter/lt35 are made in the same factory but have different engines/gearboxes fitted as well as minor appearance changes.Posted 9 years agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
The VAG ones aren’t really the same car as such, but based on the same platform.
I have Leon Cupra (mk1) and have driven the equivalent Golf (1.6 and GTi), and there was definitely a difference in feel/handling… except the identical 6sp gearbox which really was identical, including all the same characteristic notchiness, especially upshifting when wellying it.Posted 9 years agoLord SummerisleMember
Saab 9-3, for example, is not a rebadged Vectra.
No that’ll be the 9-5
the 9-5 has nothing in common with the Vectra. they are built on different platforms
the 9-5 on the GM2900 platform (like the Cavalier was) and the 9-3 and vectra uses the Epsilon
otherwise back on topic.
Citroen Berlingo/Peugot PartnerPosted 9 years ago
Citroen C1, Peugot 107, Toyota Aygo – all built in the same toyota factory.
Reckon Filthy is right with all the VAG group stuff. Floorpan sharing is the key part as it defines wheelbase, suspension type/positioning, engine/gearbox location etc and is a huge investment for the manufacturers.Posted 9 years ago
Boxter/Cayman/front end of 911RooleyMoorMember
Wasn’t the Lancia Thema also built on the same floorpan as the Old Saab 9000?
I believe the new Jag XF is built on the new Mondeo floorpan, x-type uses the old one?
The previous Skoda Superb model was effectively a rebadged, Chinese VW Passat with some rhinoplasty.
And last years Torro Rosso F1 car was a rebadged Red Bull.Posted 9 years agoOllyMember
Fabia VRS is a Goldf TDi with a squirt more power i believe.
even has VW stamped on top of the engine?
the peugot on topgear is a 107/toyota aygo/chit citron C1 and others.
all of which are arse compared to the a Kia Picanto. (not that im biased, but while looking at cars of that size, you notice the difference between having bare metal doors, and fabric covered door inners, and a a 4cylinder 1l revs sooo much quicker and smoother than a 3 cylinder)Posted 9 years ago
not fast but hellish nippy, & good fun around town 😀
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