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  • Premier Icon wiggles
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    True, I meant more someone who can exploit his weaknesses rather than he doesn’t have any, just seems to smother everyone and not give them a chance, but there’s still some guys that have a decent chance!

    jimjam
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    wiggles – Member

    just seems to smother everyone and not give them a chance, but there’s still some guys that have a decent chance!

    Yeah he’s relentless, and brilliant but his opponents can* choose to pull guard work a sweep from deep half, roll for a knee or turtle/give their backs in order to advance or work from those positions as opposed to constantly fighting the take down against the fence or getting mauled in half guard. Khabib’s opponents seem so fixated on getting away from himm that they invariably become exhausted in the clinch.

    Dos Anjos was actually able to somewhat stifle Khabib by pulling guard, he also had a couple of decent guillotine attempts as well as a kimura attempt, he went for deep half sweeps and imanari rolls to escape and made them work.

    There are people with dangerous guards**. Additionally someone with good elbows** might be able to do what Travis Browne did to Josh Barnett and Garbriel Gonzaga as they worked for take downs.

    *Obvious caveat regarding it being easier said than done.

    **Ferguson.

    Not impossible for sure the elbow thing, but Travis Brown has got so much leverage and height which is why they work so well (Jones has great success with elbows for the same reason).

    Khabib’s got to fight Tony now for sure. Great match up, and even more so now if his nutrition/weight cutting is under control as we’re being lead to believe.

    Another tough night for Holly. I like her but can’t help but think retirement is probably not too far off.

    Jackson/Wink now have something like 19 losses in a row in UFC competition. Don’t think anyone saw that one coming!

    arrpee
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    Just watched Nurmagomedov vs. Barboza for the 2nd time.

    Wouldn’t have been surprised to see Barboza’s corner stop the fight between rounds. He got the moral compensation of making it to the end and landing the head-kick in the last round, but at what a cost.

    Agree that Tony has the best chance against him, but I couldn’t feel optimistic after watching that. Also remember that Lee had some success holding him down before he ended up knackered.

    jimjam
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    arrpee – Member

    Agree that Tony has the best chance against him, but I couldn’t feel optimistic after watching that. Also remember that Lee had some success holding him down before he ended up knackered.

    Lee is a half decent striker but Tony was beating him up on the feet. Lee is a traditional collegiate wrestler in that he times his takedowns off his opponents, Khabib on the other hand just uses his strikes to close the distance to initiate any kind of clinch, then chain wrestle to win the takedown.

    Ferguson was elbowing Lee even when he was airborne, and he was aggressive with elbows off his back, ultimately allowing him the triangle. Michael Johnson also had good success early in his fight with Khabib by feinting the knee every time Khabib looked to shoot, keeping him on his feet allowed him to connect with Khabib and hurt him.

    Khabib’s game isn’t massively complex – clinch at all costs. Work for the takedown. Control posture, by removing posting arms, ground and pound. He’s just relentless at it. Daniel Cormier and Ben Askren have similar styles. Over commitment to the clinch could see him vulnerable to guillotines too. I could even see Tony going for a jumping guillotine like Brian Oretega finished Swanson with – even if he fails he still ends up in guard.

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pYMhEuF4FY[/video]

    jimjam
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    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xxfT301Ii8[/video]

    Jeff Novitsky on with Rogan. Should be interesting.

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    He’s been in before and it was great

    jimjam
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    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkBXzkD6tis[/video]

    This is perhaps the best podcast of all time. That is all 🙂

    Jamie
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    Danaher. 24/7 rashguard.

    ctk
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    Reminds me of Swiss Tony.

    Joe was patient with all the questions!

    pondo
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    And he needed to be! 🙂

    ctk
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    I’ve got a few quid on the underdog double of Stipe and Volkan.

    For me Stipe vs Ngannou is 50/50. Stipe knocks out more people than Ngannou

    I know Volkan is a big underdog (and I’m probably throwing my money away) but I have a feeling that he might just sneak a hard punch out of the clinch and stun DC

    Rumble stunned DC but didnt capitalise. Jones stunned him and did. (Yes both with headkicks but Volkan hits hard!)

    jimjam
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    ctk – Member

    Reminds me of Swiss Tony.

    But instead of cars he deals in second hand death 🙂

    Did anyone watch that podcast and not want to train jiu-jitsu?

    ctk – Member

    I’ve got a few quid on the underdog double of Stipe and Volkan.

    Who the hell knows. There’s good odds on later round finishes – seems the odds makers are very skeptical that Ngannou can win past the 3rd. 7/2 on Oezdemir by tko seems like decent odds too. I can’s see him submitting DC or taking him to a decision.

    31/10 for DC by decision seems like an ok bet. The rest of the cards looks like the UFC are really trying to stack the deck for home wins, which rarely works though.

    swedishmatt
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    Jimjam: thanks for posting that Daher pod cast.

    I immediately checked for the nearest BJJ dojos/clubs whatever they’re called!

    jimjam
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    swedishmatt – Member

    Jimjam: thanks for posting that Daher pod cast.

    I immediately checked for the nearest BJJ dojos/clubs whatever they’re called!

    Ha! Awesome. Generally clubs is the preferred term and just instructor or coach. BJJ doesn’t really stand on formalities that much. Danaher is unusual even in his use of traditional Japanese terminology.

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    The ngannou hype train hits a stumbling block! Stipe was pretty much written off before last night. Chuffed to see him prove them wrong

    Jamie
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    Good to see Stipe snatch the belt off Dana and get his corner man to put it on him.

    arrpee
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    Good to see Stipe snatch the belt off Dana and get his corner man to put it on him.

    Absolutely. Stipe was still clearly pissed off at the press conference, and with good reason.

    ctk
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    Glad for Stipe, I was rooting for him but also expected him to win. I wonder what next for Stipe and Ngannou? Werdum vs one or the other I reckon. Dana wants DC vs Stipe!

    Jamie
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    Dana can piss off.

    DC won’t go up to heavyweight as Cain is coming back.

    Stipe vs Ngannou 2 maybe?

    Or maybe every champion should just take over a year off and get boxed up by Floyd. Seems WME are cool with that.

    jimjam
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    Well that was beautiful. As per my earlier post, Boston fighters 3 for 3. Annoyingly I missed out on £900 thanks to Rob Font and Stipe. Hey ho.

    Jamie
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    Also, a shout out for DC’s, the other one, superb mean girl commentary style.

    jimjam
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    Jamie – Member

    Also, a shout out for DC’s, the other one, superb mean girl commentary style.

    Volkan’s face at the press conference…can’t help but love DC.

    arrpee
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    DC fighting Stipe for the heavyweight title in July, apparently.

    Can’t watch; don’t want to see either guy lose to the other.

    Clearly the best fight for both though, I reckon.

    Jamie
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    I guess Cain ain’t coming back, or ar least for a while

    Unless it was a ridiculous amount of cash offered, and after all the bullshit money fights so far, this is one I can get behind. This is going to be some proper wholesome MMA coming up with then doing TUF as well.

    I guess DC retires after this.

    jimjam
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    if DC and Stipe can get a big pay day and DC can finally get the stigma of Jon Jones off then I guess it’s all good. DC has a very real chance of winning imo.

    jimjam
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    I haven’t watched all of last nights card (putting it on now) but I did watch Mirsad Bectic vs Godofredo Pepey….great fight. Check it out. The winner is my no1 future prospect 😉

    Jamie
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    All I’ll say is the way the winner of the main event finished the fight was stone cold killer.

    ctk
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    Yep looked like he really meant it!

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