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  • TheDTs
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    I buy a 1/4 of a Dexter at a time. Bit of everything including a nice Rib for Christmas Day. Local small holding not commercial, sells to friends and family to cover costs (Plus a bit) £11/kg
    It is very nice.

    paulneenan76
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    I think Dyna-ti is having a bit of a mare, here. Rib Eye has good fat content, so flavourful. It has a nice “eye” of golden fat in the centre of it. Also, big fat cuts – I like a good 400grams, won’t be burnt and raw if you reverse sear it – bring it slowly up to 45degrees on a low heat then sear by continuously turning it over a very high heat to create your crust/char.

    Nothing wrong with frozen beef when frozen well.

    I like fillet now and again but if you want flavourful meet you gotta char it, and that means direct heat!

    Hixson is good as is Meat Matters Ltd, Direct Meats and Bad Ass Beef Co.

    colournoise
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    The cut can be the key to getting tasty, good value steak.

    We have a local smallholder who only really does one slaughter a year of one or two of her Highland Cattle (put her annual flyer through our door today as it happens).

    Does all the regular steak cuts but then also offers Skirt for relative pennies. We buy up loads of her stock to freeze. Fresh or frozen, if cooked right has amazing flavour and texture – far beyond even a good Ribeye.

    See also Hangar and Bavette if you can find them.

    dyna-ti
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    I think Dyna-ti is having a bit of a mare

    Nope ,just Dyna-ti speaking his piece again as per usual. Dyna-ti being an actual Butcher like, with 16 years of post apprenticeship under his belt across many aspects of the meat trade both retail and wholesale before swapping to a different trade.
    But yeah, I mean wtf do I know eh ?, I’ll just go with and agree with some cycling blokes off the interweb.

    😆 😆

    I can see now how anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists websites attract so many people 😆

    steve-g
    Free Member

    Mmmmmmm steak

    That is all

    timmys
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    @dyna-ti – Not doubting your credentials but I am totally confused by your “Ribeye is devoid of any fat” comment. The high fat content of rib-eye is it’s defining characteristic and why people choose it. What am I (and others by the looks of it) missing?

    Pretty typical rib-eye;

    Decent rib-eye;

    Drac
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    Nope ,just Dyna-ti speaking his piece again as per usual. Dyna-ti being an actual Butcher like, with 16 years of post apprenticeship under his belt across many aspects of the meat trade both retail and wholesale before swapping to a different trade.

    Didn’t doubt you either but it was a very narrow view of claiming you can’t freeze steak as it makes it dry and only posh restaurants sell proper hung an dried meat. I couldn’t even bring myself to question you ribeye comment.

    Cougar
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    So what you’re saying is,

    The steaks are too high?

    I’ve found venison to generally be much cheaper than steak,

    That’s odd, I always thought it was dead dear…

    Cougar
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    fish and chips were 15 quid or similar, 8 quid tops up north.

    What?

    And, what?

    dyna-ti
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    but it was a very narrow view of claiming you can’t freeze steak as it makes it dry

    Hardly a ‘narrow’ view. It’s what I was taught. and i seemingly had to go to length to show as to how meat would become dry if you freeze it due to the damage to the cell walls and what happens when it is defrosted. I stated a fact, its no a personal opinion up for debate.
    Trail rat even stated that his Butcher father was of the same opinion concerning the freezing of meat. So you have 2 butchers talking about an aspect of their trade, but they’re both wrong according to some of the posters on this thread.
    What would have been lovely would have been for people to take the information on board instead of arguing the toss.
    I wonder if those same individuals phone up the welding team at Atherton bikes to tell them they’re doing the welding wrong. Wouldn’t that be a funny though brief conversation. ‘Im not a welder myself but…. 😆

    As to nY ribeye comment ???.
    Well I had a look and it must be this that you are referring to
    ” or ribeye. Ribeye is devoid of any fat and done in the oven. I dont like fat on meat.”

    You have some sort of a problem on the way I like to prepare my steaks for my own consumption 😕
    So tell me Drac, is this some sort of hate you have for people who cut off the fat from a steak before cooking it 😆 only I thought it was all down to personal taste, and dare I say it personal freedoms that allow me to do such.

    Here’s your answer for you 😉 ‘Oh I wrongly thought you meant ribeye had no fat on it when everyone can clearly see it is a steak with a very high degree of intramuscular fat’

    You see Drac, there are a number of different ways you can break down a carcass. The English method, the Scottish(identical to the German method), and the French method. I personally prefer the french style because I dont like any fat nor connective tissue on meat, just the pure muscle. A decent piece of beef, and there are a range of qualities here, the majority with little intramuscular fat or marbling as most know it and others with a high degree of marbling. So when Im buying beef for my own consumption i look for that with the extra degree of marbling because I further prepare it by removing all of the outside fat,sinew or connective tissue.
    *I remember reading something off some crazed doctor claiming too much fat on meat was bad for you and could lead to heart attacks and other nasty medical conditions. I stupidly took him at his word, when what I should have done was went online to tell him how wrong he was.
    So I’ve been labouring under this false premise all these years and heavily trimming the meat i eat to cut down on my fat consumption.*

    Pic – You’ll have to excuse my rubbish editing.
    Rolled rib eye off the bone, the way I would prefer to prepare rib for the oven, and used to each Xmas for the family was to take the two muscles in this pic and roll(tie) them together. Trimming away all the rest of the fat, the smaller muscles etc etc. This style is called ‘French Trim’ and I like it because its easy to cook, easy to carve and theres only the marbling fat so its healthier

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    *This is obviously sarcasm, and I feel I should point it out to posters because some just wont get that and think Im being serious 😯

    What I hope you and others could take from this thread is Steak is indeed expensive, in that quality meat is expensive, and cheap meat from a supermarket is cheap, and if possible dont buy in bulk and freeze meat, and it makes it dry.
    I would further hope people would start or continue to buy from a real Butchers shop and not a supermarket, as it is destroying the trade and no doubt many have you have noticed there are considerably fewer real old fashioned Butchers shops about these days, thanks to the consumer buying the cheaper mass produced cuts and possibly, possibly them thinking they know wtf they’re talking about.

    Oh look here’s Cougar come for a look-see 😉 😆 😆

    Drac
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    I would further hope people would start or continue to buy from a real Butchers shop and not a supermarket

    I do 90% of the time for red meats, I like that they age them properly like you get in a posh restaurant and that they can be frozen with no real effect on taste or texture despite what 2 butchers say.

    jambourgie
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    With regards to Venison; are there any restrictions to buying the good stuff? Ie, game, a wild animal that’s been chased down and shot rather than a farmed Deer grown in a tube or whatever.

    Reason I ask is, I was chatting to my local butcher and asked about this and he said that they all go shooting from October I think he said, but then he didn’t say that he’d actually be selling it. The conversation kind of trailed of as if I’d enquired about illegal drugs or specialist pornography. Or maybe it’s just that there’s not much to go round, and it’ll mostly go to his mates and family?

    dyna-ti
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    Or maybe it’s just that there’s not much to go round, and it’ll mostly go to his mates and family?

    The drugs or the specialized pornography ? 😯 😯

    trail_rat
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    Trail rat even stated that his Butcher father was of the same opinion concerning the freezing of meat. So you have 2 butchers talking about an aspect of their trade

    Yeah he learned about that in the 80s.

    He freezes meat today because It near as damn makes no practical difference and his nearest butcher is 2hrs round trip and French super market meat Is even worse than the UK.

    But as you mention real butcher’s are a dying trade so shout out to my local guy for anyone that’s in Aberdeen/shire

    http://www.lurchmonster.co.uk

    Top banter , top meat

    timmys
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    Rolled rib eye off the bone, the way I would prefer to prepare rib for the oven, and used to each Xmas for the family was to take the two muscles in this pic and roll(tie) them together. Trimming away all the rest of the fat, the smaller muscles etc etc. This style is called ‘French Trim’ and I like it because its easy to cook, easy to carve and theres only the marbling fat so its healthier

    OK, you’re describing how you prepare an off the bone rib roast. Just to help orientate you, in this thread we are discussing steaks.

    dyna-ti
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    OK, you’re describing how you prepare an off the bone rib roast. Just to help orientate you, in this thread we are discussing steaks.

    Righto timmy. Thanks for the input, will take it onboard 😉

    Drac
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    Top banter , top meat

    That hot wing pie looks amazing.

    One the ones who do amazing meat that I occasionally use is these guys.

    boriselbrus
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    The last steak I got from a proper butchers was rib eye, cost me £10 and was tasteless and so tough I couldn’t actually chew it. I ended up giving it to the dog who spent an hour working on it. I now get great rib eyes from Aldi which are delicious, around a fiver and you can cut with a spoon.

    jambourgie
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    Aldi steaks are lovely. Those Aberdeen Sirloins especially. But every time I have one I can’t help worrying about the welfare of the animals when it costs like £4.50. Please tell me it’s fine and that they’re loss leaders or something.

    Drac
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    Yeah when I’ve wanted a steak at short notice or for cooking a Chinese dish I’ve grabbed them, they not bad at all and certainly better than a poor butchers. Some supermarket meat is Ok these days, Morrisons particularly but I still try to buy from a butcher or direct from the farm shop.

    gobuchul
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    A few weeks in a freezer makes next to no difference to steak. Obviously there will some changes to the meat but nothing really noticeable.

    With regards to Venison; are there any restrictions to buying the good stuff? Ie, game, a wild animal that’s been chased down and shot rather than a farmed Deer grown in a tube or whatever.

    In the UK, a butcher must have a licence to sell game. I think it’s to do with controlling poachers.

    paulneenan76
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    As with anything in life, you don’t always get what you pay for. I’m lucky round here that we have half-a-dozen excellent butchers, aided by the uplift in outdoor grillers/bbq’ers, who like me, are looking for a number of different cuts from different animals; even a guy who got into butchery in lockdown.

    I do buy supermarket meat but it’s often disappointing and you’ll find better from local butchers or online butchers who know the origins etc. fat is flavour. Counteract it/eat in moderation.

    Joe
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    Does anyone have somewhere they would recommend buying some venison online?

    TheDTs
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    Atherton glue their bikes together. Btw.

    intheborders
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    In the UK, a butcher must have a licence to sell game. I think it’s to do with controlling poachers.

    I assume ours does, although there is also a gun shop two doors down 🙂

    The OH has already ordered a pair of racks for Christmas – works out cheaper than Lamb.

    Although we also get Lamb from her pal at the stables, she’s got Shetland Sheep and will supply either a full one or half, fully butchered. Lush.

    bigrich
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    So muscle hasn’t isn’t made up of cells, and those cells dont rupture when frozen, is what you believe 😕

    Yes it is, its made of multinucleated syncytia.

    cultsdave
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    @trail_rat, you should go here https://aberdeenshirehighlandbeef.com/ Good quality local meet at a very good price. Buy all our beef from here and walk along to collect it.

    thols2
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    Must be Brexit or something

    dyna-ti
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    Well do you know what is nice, and isn’t going to cost the earth.

    A nice big plate of stew. The secret as anyone here will tell you is in the gravy.

    You can add veg, and potatoes are especially nice in it. Or dumplings. or make up little squares of puff pastry.

    In shop mode we strained the liquid from the stew after cooking and used that to make the gravy separately and you can blitz it smooth with carrots/onions etc before adding the cooked meat and giving it a little stir.

    Much cheaper than a slice of steak. Just takes a bit longer to prepare and cook.

    And you can dip bread in it.

    Riksbar
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    Tom Hixon on line, incredible quality. 40-60kg depending…

    Eg 2.5 kg (often theya re a bit bigger) for £70. =28 a kg.
    https://www.tomhixson.co.uk/product/hereford-beef-ribeye-508

    Follow this link today two months later and it says a lot about the price of steak, frozen or not.

    seosamh77
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    I’d a couple of sir loins the other week, up there, 375g each, about an inch thick, just well salted and peppered and the pan fried for 5ish minutes, continually turning, chucked in some garlic and butter for the last couple of minutes. Then left to rest for a bit.

    Perfection. Probably the best steaks I’ve had in the house.

    Was about £22 quid for them, so somewhere in the £30 a kilo range.

    pedlad
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    Love a bit of Rib eye and a good rump for flavour from the local butcher but occasionally go for filet.

    PSA for Worcestershire folk – The butchers section in St Peters Garden Centre does whole filet (1.2kg) for £29 which I’m pretty certain is a bargain.

    squirrelking
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    But as you mention real butcher’s are a dying trade so shout out to my local guy for anyone that’s in Aberdeen/shire

    http://www.lurchmonster.co.uk

    Going national by the look of it

    shinton
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    Another shout out to a local butcher H E Coward of Frodsham. Just off the M56 if you are within striking distance and they do the most amazing pies. I had a couple of sirloin steaks from them last week for £9 which thinly sliced made a fantastic beef in black bean sauce.

    tthew
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    H E Coward of Frodsham … amazing pies…

    Seconded. I used to be based in Frodsham, at Bridge House, opposite the Chinese Delight. No better dinner than a Cowards steak pie sandwiched in a Devonshire Bakery bin lid barm. The fact it was about a mile walk to source the ingredients also offset the extravagant calorie intake at lunch time! 😋

    dyna-ti
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    which thinly sliced made a fantastic beef in black bean sauce.

    That was a revelation to me.

    M&S used to do a small jar of stroganoff cook in. It was fantastic, and from the ingredients proper made, just add the meat.

    Then typically for M&S as it was popular they stopped doing it.

    One time i’m about to do strips in a blue cheese sauce and spotted the black bean sauce sachet in the cupboard and though 😕 The Chinese use this with beef, what the hell.

    Quick fried the strips, added the black bean sauce to heat through then whacked in 1/2 a tub of double cream.

    Incredible result. A staple for me now.

    A 6-8oz piece of fillet, all fat,silverskin etc removed, sliced thin then into strips makes a gigantic pile on the plate(Enough for two really) Cooks in about five minutes so its super fast and seriously delicious.

    seosamh77
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    6-8oz

    speak in post 1971 would ye? 😆

    gowerboy
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    Really good stuff here…

    https://www.gowermeadowbeef.co.uk/

    monkeyboyjc
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    We sell a good 8oz cut for around £12 so yep about £50 a kilo – not so good cuts, roughly a £1 an ounce.

    I can get Himalayan aged waga whatzit cuts but no idea on prices.

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