ricin, Glocks, bomb parts, cabana bars, …

It’s not that I’m looking for any of the above, yer honour, (apart from cabanas) but how do these jokers get onto it – just google “ricin dark web” and click the shopping button or what ?

A combination of Tor, google and wikipedia will help get you started 😉

I’d rather not know. Probably wouldn’t leave the house again.

It’s full of cat porn.

The darknet doesn’t rely on conventional search processes; as I understand it, it’s more like finding blogs on specific subjects, and asking for required info or items, although I could be off the mark. I only know how to use a conventional search engine, trying to go into the murkier depths of the interwebz would likely get me into all kinds of crap.

I only know how to use a conventional search engine

The number of people I’ve come across who can’t do this effectively amazes me. Especially colleagues – IT related :/

Tor is the way, it’s a slow version of the normal internet.

I can access it, but where is a good darknet seach engine to be found?

You buy it from the Web of dark…

What you need is someone to shine a light on it for you.

/getscoat

Always found it kinda cool in House of Cards when Doug’s computer went haywire.
And the geeky guy who his on the dark Web whilst working for the feds.

It’s just bits that other folk can’t see you know? like your work intranet…like that, only less interesting.

bits that other folk can’t see you know? like your work intranet…like that, only less interesting

so how do they come to see it

(I mean, typical reported profile of “these” folk is loner wackjob, so how do they find it without help – do dark web peeps look around facebook and chatrooms for people who sound like they’d like to buy a few gallons of napalm, or what ? If they have to google “dark web” then surely they’re **** unless GCHQ is just pretend)

(they’re welcome to our intranet – though it sometimes makes me feel like going on a spree of some sort, you know, with my illicit cabanas)

The darknet doesn’t rely on conventional search processes; as I understand it, it’s more like finding blogs on specific subjects, and asking for required info or items, although I could be off the mark

You’re broadly right, aye.

Tor is the way, it’s a slow version of the normal internet.

TOR is synonymous with the hatefully-named “dark web” but really it’s nothing to do with it. TOR simply provides a degree of anonymity.

As an analogy, let’s use the phone system. You want to know the number of a plumber, you look in the phone book under “plumbers” and then dial the number. You want to know the number of your local drugs dealer, you look in the Yellow Pages and find to your surprise that there’s nothing there.

So you ask your mate Dodgy Dave if you know where you can get some drugs. He goes, aye, sure, and gives you an ex-directory phone number for Shady Sean. This, in essence, is the dark web.

You ring Shady Sean, and order a bag of something illicit. Except, the phone company now have a record of you ringing him (assuming they haven’t blocked you from ringing ex-directory numbers). The police have been keeping an eye on Shady Sean and now they know you’ve been talking to him. They get onto BT, and BT give them a copy of the transaction, and both Sean and you get busted.

So instead of doing that you dial 141 and then a number at random. Someone in France picks up, “bonjour?” she says. You give her Sean’s details and ask her (in your best French) to dial another random number and pass on the details. After half a dozen iterations of this, someone actually rings Sean and gives him your order. This, in essence, is TOR.

Anyone hook me up with some EPO? cheers.

yeh Cougar, but how do you get to know Dodgy Dave ?

jimjam – https://www.epo.org/index.html whatcha got planned?

Darknet – is that where you go to find a new ISIS bottom bracket?

The first thing they should have done, if they really wanted to crack down on it, was give it a less cool name. Nobody’d want to download goat porn from the Mauve Web

qwerty – Member

jimjam – https://www.epo.org/index.html whatcha got planned?

No inventions, but I’ve got a few KOMs on Strava I’m eyeing up 😆

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs/wiki/index

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/internet/how-access-pirate-bay-blocked-torrent-sites-online-3492629/

I always assumed that ‘the dark web’ referred to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. pages of a Google search…

It’ snot all illicit and illegal on there. Didn’t Aphex twin recently list gigs or new material on the dark web a few months ago? I think it was them.

The way I understand it* is that it’s simply web content that cannot be found on popular search engines.

That may be because the creator has not chosen to allow search engines to index their website, or because search engines have refused to index them (perhaps based on their dodgy content…)

*Admittedly, my understanding might be very wrong. I’m no expert on the matter. But I don;t think the reality is any more exciting than that really. I don’t think there’s any dark lair that you go into, with skulls hanging up, and naked girls with three tits like in Total Recall. Just a load of really boring stuff that is mostly too boring for most search engines to want to know about.

So you ask your mate Dodgy Dave if you know where you can get some drugs. He goes, aye, sure, and gives you an ex-directory phone number for Shady Sean. This, in essence, is the dark web.

FFS, I’m gonna have words with that **** Dave if he’s giving my number out to any ****

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Web

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tor_hidden_services

Just read an interesting article in an American computer mag about the Dark Web. In 2014 the Tor project was financially supported by the U.S.Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour and the National Science Foundation, previous donors included the Naval Research Laboratory and DARPA.

Just use duckduckgo, that brings up content of no relevance to the search criteria so it must be from the dark side of the web.

8)

Funny you mention that, DuckDuckGo is one of the default browsers in Tor as it’s anonymous.

The number of people I’ve come across who can’t do this effectively amazes me. Especially colleagues – IT related

This I know well. Lmgtfy.com works very well as a response, and one ‘experienced technician’s response was ‘cheeky fecker… How did you record your screen while you typed that?’.

I’d be dubious about anonymity, especially in the UK. Can you trust anything on the public Internet via a UK ISP for downloading Tor in the first place to not be Tor-provided-by-UK-gov-or-FBI? Or for Tor entry points via UK networks not to all be hijacked by the authorities.

If not though I’m sure they will be. Tor and the like are set to become illegal if Dave has his way with banning everything encryption. Then you’ll be arrested for just even searching for the download.

Can you trust anything on the public Internet via a UK ISP for downloading Tor in the first place to not be Tor-provided-by-UK-gov-or-FBI?

A poisoned TOR client would be outed fairly readily I reckon. It’s a pretty obsessive subculture.

Or for Tor entry points via UK networks not to all be hijacked by the authorities.

It’s not really entry points you have to be concerned about; in essence, the entry point is you. Where TOR can fall down is in its exit nodes. Honeypot exit nodes can and do pose a real threat to your assumed anonymity.

or and the like are set to become illegal if Dave has his way with banning everything encryption.

And if we ban encryption, we lose secure transactions. No more online banking, no more shopping on Amazon, no more any website which uses https://… It’s sheer madness even by CMD’s standards; it’s like they’ve had trouble breaking in to a criminal’s house so decided to ban locks.

I can’t see it happening, we’d be set back decades if it goes through. If it does go ahead, I can see the ISPs making a stand and telling them to foxtrot oscar.

Amused at thought of “dark” web, ie, hidden, secret, being discussed during a slow Monday afternoon on an MTB forum.
🙂

Cougar – Moderator
to foxtrot oscar

Swear filter avoidance?
😆

“Dark Web” is one of those catch-app titles the papers use to explain something far more complex like “Al-Qaeda”.

I have ‘seen’ it – it’s very slow, but the crux is you use a complex system to hide your online identity by bouncing it all around the world, if you want you can then visit ‘hidden’ sites like Silk Road (a classifieds site for drugs) and buy things (drugs) with a currency that’s untraceable – (bit coins).

There are of course other places selling other things you won’t find on eBay, Weapons, Child Pornography and Hitmen for example.

A lot of it relies on trust – you have to trust the person who the combined forces of the FBI and CIA struggle to find will send you the drugs you paid for – I believe their was a feedback system like eBay on Silk Road, but how genuine could it be?

I understand the idea of the dark web but when ever anyone mentions the phrase the image I come up with is badly drawn skeletons: In a dark dark town,there was a dark dark street,in the dark dark street,there was a dark dark house,in the dark …

Sometimes I wonder if Humans can really handle their version of the “internet”.

The amount of turnover at Silk Road was staggering…. $BILLIONS!

Ars Technica have excellent coverage of it, in particular : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/how-the-feds-took-down-the-dread-pirate-roberts/

http://arstechnica.com/series/the-silk-road-bust/

That’s a good read, thanks for that.

(Who do I write to to secure the movie rights?)