Suella! Braverman!

I see she’s now recommenced her leadership bid by moaning about the present system of justice, sentencing and prison overcrowding

If only she’d have found herself in a position where she could influence such things? Home Secretary perhaps? 🙄

It’s that complete lack of self awareness that is almost as endearing as the complete lack of ability.

Suella didn’t do her homework again.

Oh dear.

Move to extend police protest powers ruled unlawful

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-69043611

So once again she either

a) sketched a policy out on the back of a fag packet and didn’t take any advice on whether it was legal or not

or

b) sketched a policy out on the back of a fag packet and ignored the advice on whether it was legal or not

I’m sure she’ll pop up on Twitter soon to once again blame the tofu-eating wokerati for her latest ****-wittery

It’s almost as if she’s not a very good lawyer?

I dont think she or the government we’re even concerned about it being viable in law. It was the usual culture war shit, so it was only important for the attempt (now appeal) to make the headlines.

They are absolutely and irretrievably out of ideas

Surely they will just change the laws again to make it lawful?

It was the usual culture war shit, so it was only important for the attempt (now appeal) to make the headlines.

Yeah plus it “worked” for a few months so thats a win for them. Normally they dont have stuff working for a few days.

More ‘government by journalist’. Writing tomorrow’s headlines and pretending it’s a policy.

Do they actually DO anything? Other than announce ‘policies’ that crash and burn on first contact with reality and are quietly dropped?

They’ve spent at least half a billion and committed god knows how much Parliamentary time to Rwanda, a stupid idea dreamt up by Boris to get himself out of another self-inflicted car crash. Every single person (apart from the complete morons) knows it’s ridiculous and nonsensical and won’t work, but on they plough, chucking more millions onto the fire

It was the usual culture war shit

100% this.

What’s the maximum number of days until we can be rid of these tossers?

Just heard that the government has said “some protests are becoming a threat to our democracy.”

What the actual?

Just heard that the government has said “some protests are becoming a threat to our democracy.”

What the actual

Rishi made a big speech on it a few weeks ago. This is the party that wants to remove the UK from the ECHR remember. And it’s ****all to do with Rwanda. They just want to be able to put a stop to everything they don’t like

Just heard that the government has said “some protests are becoming a threat to our democracy.”

What the actual?

Which protests would those be? I’ve yet to see any protests turn into actual armed insurrection. Unless I nodded off and missed it… 🤔

What’s the maximum number of days until we can be rid of these tossers?

251 days, absolute latest he can go is technically is the 28th of  January 2025. I reckon it’ll be October though. I think we’re inside the last 200 days of this Tory government.

It’s almost as if she’s not a very good lawyer?

She’s a great lawyer.  Its the law thats broken – thats why she’s in government trying to fix the law!  She must be a great lawyer, she’s a KC – and those aren’t given out to just anybody.  You have to earn it by being recognised by other really good lawyers, or being mates with the PM when he’s desperate for a new AG/SG.

Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven’t read the whole thread. It’s new to me though and even if it has, it probably deserves another outing!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/09/home-office-flying-of-pride-flag-was-monstrous-thing-says-suella-braverman

“What the Progress flag says to me is one monstrous thing: that I was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of children in our hospitals and from our schools,”

Good god. She is pretty vile.

In laws voted for her in her constituency last week and it’s fair to say my FiL has lost his shit in recent days. Apparently “they” are coming for us now and that Britain won’t be recognisable in 6 months now sane people like Braverman are no longer in a position to defend us. That we (his daughter and I – the only members of his family who did not vote tory or reform) and everyone like us won’t realise our stupidity until it’s too late.

That demographic is shrinking hard, partly thanks to the decisions taken in the last 14 years. Another five years and the electoral landscape could be starting to look different.

We just have to stop the hate recruitment at the other end of the age spectrum. Talk to your kids, folks, god knows what they’re being exposed to online.

sleep-pillow-interface….. just saying

Convert – was he always a bit of an extremist or has he been indoctrinated more recently?

I’d be interested to know what her constituents who just (completely inexplicably) re-elected her think about her not bothering with the opening of parliament, but instead jetting off to Washington to speak to an audience of far-right, conspiracy-theory-peddling nutjobs?

It shows where her priorities lie

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Convert – was he always a bit of an extremist or has he been indoctrinated more recently?

GB News is responsible for radicalising a lot of people imo. In fact, that’s it’s purpose.

I look at it occasionally to get to get to know the enemy. It’s a low budget copy of Fox, constantly sewing endless fear and victimhood.

I honestly can’t watch more than 10 minutes then I’m done.

Convert – was he always a bit of an extremist or has he been indoctrinated more recently?

No…this has come since the Brexit vote, just bubbling away under the surface. Always been a DM reader. And always at the stupid end of normal. Very much a black and white thinker – intellectually and emotionally unable to cope with the concept of grey. Always been very immature and unable to handle people disagreeing with him and taking it very personally. As is probably the case with a lot of families he ended up Facebook friends with a few of our friends who I’d describe as much more liberal/left of centre and younger. The in-laws were very hurt apparently by the shares and posts from our friends they saw about brexit voters being stupid. The gammon accusations etc.

As a result of the above I’d say he’s probably felt rejected from a large section of society, that he’d now label as woke. He’s be completely unable to tell you what woke meant but it’s a slur to counteract gammon I guess. Mrs C is the first graduate in their family and he’d probably label all graduates as ‘woke’ now and people with education beyond his (CSE) as stuck up. He’ll have been happily living in his echo chamber of right thinking oldies, feasting on the DM and slowly maturing to what he is today. I’d say there is a reasonable  likelihood we (and by that I mean the frustrated remain voting left of centre, possibly degree educated) played a part in making these people by being a but too truthful in our opinions if people like him.

edit – and no, he’s not a GB news viewer. That’d mean him getting his head around non terrestrial tv.  He’s still using his VHS to record stuff and freeview is not in his hitting zone.

Sad for your partner. The constant poison that the DM has dripped into British life is a betrayal of the ‘British values’ they claim to espouse.

Not the biggest fan of Starmer’s Labour, but the difference between the deranged, hysterical rhetorical of the likes of Braverman compared to the sober, reconciled tone of the new administration is not only fills me with hope, but acutely renders the nightmare that this women used to be our home secretary.

Apart from the Orwellian image, I noticed the conference in London was hardly a sellout event.

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Are you suggesting that the Pop Cons aren’t that Pop?

The in-laws were very hurt apparently by the shares and posts from our friends they saw about brexit voters being stupid. The gammon accusations etc.

As a result of the above I’d say he’s probably felt rejected from a large section of society, that he’d now label as woke. He’s be completely unable to tell you what woke meant but it’s a slur to counteract gammon I guess

Which possibly explains an awful lot of the Reform vote

Apparently “they” are coming for us now and that Britain won’t be recognisable in 6 months

My greek immigrant friend who voted for Brexit and Johnson then promptly retired to Cyprus so he didn’t have to live in the fallout is constantly trying to convince us we are midway through a Muslim invasion and it won’t be very long before “they” are the law / dominant force in the UK.

That image up there looks like a catheter conference

My greek immigrant friend who voted for Brexit and Johnson then promptly retired to Cyprus

A greek Cypriot, you say 🙂 is he aware of the Turkish Cypriot population? 😉

Ask him who invented hummous and then walk away, backwards, fast!

Or Turkish delight

Badenoch apparently told other members of the shadow cabinet that Braverman was currently having a nervous breakdown in public due to trauma over the election results. Marvellous.

GB News is responsible for radicalising a lot of people imo. In fact, that’s its purpose.

I don’t even know where to find GB news – I see the odd clip people post online but I’ve never watched it other that that.  Something makes them go looking for this stuff.

Badenoch is simply having a dig at a political rival. The election result was far better for the Tories than just about every pollster predicted, Badenoch herself was lucky to win her seat – she wouldn’t have done if the pollsters had been right.

Far from having nervous breakdown Braverman knows exactly what she is doing. Like Nigel Farage she shares a talent for drawing attention to herself and getting people to talk about her.

The only thread dedicated to a politician currently active on stw is this one about her. Despite the fact that she is for all intents and purposes just an inconsequential backbencher of an opposition party, she’s not even a party leader.

Making outrageous comments and winding up lefties and liberals is what gets her noticed, and what her supporters love about her. And I am not sure there is anyone who does it better.

I have no idea if it will help her to secure her goals but as sure as hell her intellect and powers of reasoned persuasion won’t, a point that no doubt she is only too aware of.

She going full culture war grift

Somewhere between a Truss &  Bridgen, she knows she’s got no chance of being leader, her brand is just too toxic. Depending on who becomes tory leader she’d likely end up defecting to reform

Well her former supporters are increasingly backing Jenrick so party leadership might be unattainable for her but I would imagine that she will want a top job if the right-wing secure the leadership.

And yeah you are probably right – if the Tories move more leftward, which is likely imo, I could see her defecting to Reform UK. Not necessarily for ideological reasons but because she would not have a role in a less right-wing Tory Party

A greek Cypriot, you say is he aware of the Turkish Cypriot population?

He moans about that too, but just seems to take great delight in telling how shit the UK has become since he helped us into the situation.

Krypton..what was it about white Christians that he hated so much that he voted to stop them coming to this country?

He’s just a curmudgeon Zippy, he’s currently moaning about the +35 degree temps in Cyprus.