Suella! Braverman!

Such a shame that “Jewish, Palestinian and British people all come together to prove Braverman wrong and march for peace” doesn’t make headlines and sell newspapers.

From what I saw on the news last night the headline should’ve been “EDL disrupt remembrance ceremony”

Edit : Watch until the end for a contrast.

So many straws being desperately clutched in that headline, its like a cat falling off a haystack

Pure poetry in that phrase…..

Good analysis by Andrew Rawnsley in todays Observer on Sunaks weakness and his crazy decision to give her the job in the first place

Rishi Sunak must surely sack his recklessly irresponsible and incendiary home secretary

I especially love the quote:

he has retained her in the cabinet on the Lyndon Johnson principle that it was better to have her “inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in”. Mr Sunak must surely now see that she is inside the tent pissing all over him.

Feels like we’re all getting caught in the splashback.

I like this quote binners:

Expressions of horror are also to be heard from some Conservative MPs that you’d associate with the traditional right of the party. One of their number, who once worked in the same government department as Ms Braverman, fumed to me that she is “too **** dangerous” to hold the most junior ministerial rank, never mind occupy a great office of state with such grave duties in so many sensitive areas.

Personally I think Braverman has totally blown her chances of becoming Tory leader as a result of what she has said in the last couple of weeks, not that I thought her chances were ever good.

She is now seen as totally divisive, even by those on the right who support her, they realise that she could never be the leader of the party.

I think this is where we disagree Ernesto. I shoved a bet on her being next Tory leader a few months ago at 9/1. I’ve just looked and she’s now 5/1. The only person very slightly in front of her is Kemi Badanoch with Penny Mordaunt on the same odds

I think you’re underestimating just how insane the average Tory member is and it’s them who decide. They love all this shit! Homelessness as a lifestyle choice? Lefty pinko police? Terrorist glorifying protestors? Where do I sign?!!!

I reckon whether Rishi sacks her or not, she’ll become increasingly unhinged until they lose the next election and then she’ll stand as the ‘we lost because we weren’t right wing enough’ candidate and absolutely walk a leadership election in the same way Truss did. They were mad enough to elect her and they’re mad enough to elect Cruella

Meanwhile Sam Harris has continued his rants on islamophobia by characterising the march in London as being filled by hundreds of thousands marching in support of Hamas in his latest podcast.

Poor Sam, he’s becoming ever more irrelevant with every utterance

I think Braverman has a good chance of being tory leader.  Remember the party has been taken over by the hard right and that the membership are hard right.  Zero chance of becomeing PM tho.  Fartoo toxic

Ernie could be right in that this could cause a return to earth for the tories in that they choose someone who actually has a clue where reality is but I doubt it.

2 Indian men asked me to remove my metal poppy today. This was at 11 this morning.

They then gave me an mri scan.

Thank you for your service.

I think even Johnson would’ve binned her off by now, just to gain a bit of credit for himself.

Ken Sunak is so out of his depth he can’t even grasp a quick win in an open goal.

The Tories would have to be barking mad to put Braverman in No10

But then I never thought the Tories would be mad enough to elect Truss, assuming that ultimately the membership would see through her vacuous self promotion…..

Honestly I’m really divided as to if I want to see cruella as leader of the opposition.
On one hand it should see the tories destroyed for a while, but the flip side is that it gives her more of a voice

I think Braverman has a good chance of being tory leader.

We will see. I don’t prescribe to the view that Tories are clueless and incompetent – the fact that they have been in power for most of the last 200 years suggests otherwise.

You don’t become the most successful political party in the world without careful consideration of electoral strategy.

Like capitalism itself the Tories are constantly reinventing themselves and adapting to changing circumstances.

Elements in the right-wing of the Tory Party might well be wetting their pants over Braverman’s evermore attention-seeking diatribe but there is no evidence that the Tory Party as a whole see her as an election winner. Which is why combined with her divisiveness she will possibly be sacked tomorrow.

After the next general election the Tories will in all likelihood be on their knees, they will need a leader who both appeals to the wider public and unites the party.

I can’t imagine many of even her own supporters will see Braverman as a unity candidate after the last couple of weeks.

Liz Truss might have been a disaster for the Tories but she at least didn’t go out of her way to deliberately piss off members of her own party. I believe that Braverman relishes in doing that.

I think the tory party might well either split or head of further to the far right.  But as you say we will see.

As long as they’re no longer in power, I don’t give a flying **** what they do.

I do think they’ll disappear off to the real far right with either Cruella or Badanoch at the helm of HMS Nutjob

Aren’t the few voices of sanity left within the Tory party, those that Boris didn’t purge already, all standing down at the next election anyway? This leaves a rump of those in ultra safe seats and they’re all the headbangers

Whichever Tory party emerges from the projected electoral Armageddon will likely make UKIP look like the Lib Dems

Tories are in charge of the country’s narrative despite how unhinged they may seem. Otherwise they wouldn’t be so successful at being in power, and setting the economic landscape which is evidently crap but sticky enough for Labour to borrow from.

Thatcher was as mad as any of them in my opinion and a flat out liar.

They’ve always been deranged liars -the lot of them.

Tories are in charge of the country’s narrative despite how unhinged they may seem. Otherwise they wouldn’t be so successful at being in power, and setting the economic landscape which is evidently crap but sticky enough for Labour to borrow from.

LOL! A very valid point! 😁

Here’s some bravermans brownshirts doing what they do best, thankfully they’re being named and shamed on Twitter including their employment status 

https://x.com/bmay/status/1723690677354025223?s=20

Shapps is out defending Braverman today so thats the official line then.  Sunak has decided he cannot sack her

I am surprised at the lack of police presence in that ^^ clip.

I don’t know what time that was but obviously Waterloo station. Victoria station was full of coppers at midday and in the evening full chock-a-block with Palestinian supporters. I can’t see something like that happening.

I guess it was very early before the bulk of ceasefire supporters and police arrived.

thankfully they’re being named and shamed on Twitter including their employment status`

Where ?, cant find any of that

Where ?, cant find any of that

Further down the Twitter thread and on various Arsenal threads calling them out and naming them

https://x.com/h_imannn/status/1723662988345819602?s=20

I saw a lot of people posted the Jam lyrics from Down in the Tube Station at Midnight with reference to these delightful ‘patriots’ so beloved of our Home Secretary

They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs
And too many right wing meetings

I think the tory party might well either split or and head of further to the far right.

Despite what we think in our STW bubble, not all Tories are fascist headbangers, and a few I know are horrified how the last 5 years have played out, even the ones who thought Brexit was a good idea didn’t really believe Boris could manage it successfully. Hopefully it will split and be divided long enough to give the next government a chance to make some important structural and societal changes.

I marshalled the village Remembrance Parade this morning and was approached at the barrier by a very Daily Mail Reader looking woman who said “I hope you don’t have to deal with any Palestinians” to which I replied “It’s usually just English folk annoyed that they can’t get to the shop to buy their Mail on Sunday”.

She didn’t look happy with me.

approached at the barrier by a very Daily Mail Reader looking woman who said “I hope you don’t have to deal with any Palestinians” to which I replied “It’s usually just English folk annoyed that they can’t get to the shop to buy their Mail on Sunday”.

She didn’t look happy with me.

Utterly lovely!😁

We will see. I don’t prescribe to the view that Tories are clueless and incompetent – the fact that they have been in power for most of the last 200 years suggests otherwise.

I’m sure the Ottomans, Holy Roman Empire, Mongols and Romans all thought the same at the end.

They smelt of pubs and Wormwood Scrubs

And too many right wing meetings

it was quite worrying that the tory candidates in the recent bye elections had that vibe 🙁

worrying times

it’s not a good look though is it, I can see a club memo going out please can our facists racist supporters please not express their views while wearing a team shirt. :/

“I was born here”  tars us all with  the “whiff” of hate ! scum!

I would have thought Arsenal supporters would be pro Palestine as their rivals are Spurs!

Hope to be proved wrong,  but I think Rishi never would sack her- if he was going to it would have been right after the article came out.

She has just doubled **** down on it!

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-doubles-down-on-calls-for-crackdown-on-pro-palestine-protests-13006546

“I was born here”  tars us all with  the “whiff” of hate ! scum!

It’s easy to mess with their minds when you tell them their beloved St George was a Roman from Turkey/Armenia (if he existed).

We only have that cross as a flag cos we paid Genoa for protection.

If you’re English then you’re descended from German/Danish invaders.

The 3 lions you proudly wear on the replica football shirt & sing about are  a symbol from French noble heraldry.

Not hugely surprising.  she knows Sunak is too weak to sack her and she is both is an islamophobe and married to a fundamentalist zionist

I always enjoy racists claiming to be pure british anglo saxon.  Hmmm that will be danish and german then

gobuchul
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She has just doubled **** down on it!

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-doubles-down-on-calls-for-crackdown-on-pro-palestine-protests-13006546

That’s the problem, once you start heading to the far right, there is only one direction to go.

She would happily burn the country down to promote her own agenda to be Tory leader or PM. It wouldn’t matter to her if she presided over a charred wasteland. In her head she still won.

This is sometimes that never got into politics to serve her country not even at a younger/more naive age, the plan was always for the country to serve her.

cabinet meeting Monday could be interesting. So, everyone have a good weekend? What you get up to? Anything interesting?

ideally it work be little Richie sitting at the table & Sue Ellen walks in, “Am I the first? Where’s everyone else?”

”ah, thing is Susie…”

but it won’t, more’s the pity

Jostling!  At least the hate rag’s subs dont read the MWIS forecasts –  imagine if he had suffered buffeting! Or tortuous progress.

R4 this morning was a disgrace – why must they have a feature where they read the front pages.  False equivalence and “hate marchers” in a news broadcast. So much for impartiality.

The court decision on Wednesday will likely decide her fate one way or another. I mean, it should have already been decided when Truss sacked her the first time but well. Tory party.

Does anyone really think that Sunak is actually the PM in anything but name at this point? Tomorrow it will just be confirmed when he does nothing.

R4 last night was conflating ceasefire protesters with ‘Tomorrow belongs to me’, and that was meant to be ‘satire’.