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  • Stove top espresso makers time for some snobbery
  • Premier Icon duncancallum
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    So my aluminium ones scrap after the missus dishwashered it.

    I’m now wanting a new one.

    Stainless jobby

    Any reason why not or do I just go bialetti? And I’d so why

    Premier Icon fossy
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    Bialetti, but you will be replacing the rubber seals with silicone ones from ebay soon enough after you forget it’s still on – the after market ones are better. Love ours. Never wash with soap, just water.

    We’ve an ikea stainless at our caravan, just as good, but same rules, just wipe out, no soaps.

    Premier Icon Pyro
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    That’s similar to the stainless Ikea one I’ve got. It’s good, as fossy said, just look after it.

    Premier Icon suburbanreuben
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    Who washes a coffee pot?

    Bialetti for the win!

    Premier Icon grum
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    Can I be snobby and say they don’t make espresso? Thanks.

    It’s a Moka pot, named after Mocha in Yemen. Not an espresso pot.

    Premier Icon aP
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    Or an Alessi La conica?
    It is noticeably slower to make coffee than my La cupola.
    I’m an architect, I like Aldo Rossi, sorry.

    Premier Icon lapierrelady
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    https://9barista.com/ maybe one of these?

    Premier Icon bruneep
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    So my aluminium ones scrap after the missus dishwashered it.

    I’m now wanting a new one.

    Is that a new wife you’re wanting 🤔

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    Is that a new wife you’re wanting

    +1

    Premier Icon reeksy
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    I think +1 would make things too complicated

    Premier Icon yourguitarhero
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    Never really found much difference between these stovetop pots.

    My favourite kind of coffee. Preferable to any espresso I’ve bought in a cafe (artisan or Starbucks). After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend…. Probably because it’s fresh as I just open a new bag after a few days since it’s so cheap.

    *Awaits scorn*

    Premier Icon tomd
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    Never really found much difference between these stovetop pots.

    My favourite kind of coffee. Preferable to any espresso I’ve bought in a cafe (artisan or Starbucks). After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend…. Probably because it’s fresh as I just open a new bag after a few days since it’s so cheap.

    *Awaits scorn*

    No scorn here – agree with both the type of maker and coffee choice. The Lidl gold brick also seems to work well. I’ve tried all the fancy coffee makers and fancy coffees – appreciate some people do get genuine enjoyment out of making great coffee but for me personally it’s diminishing returns once you get above a reasonable supermarket coffee made carefully in a Mokka pot or cafetiere.

    Just get a bialletti one they just last and easy to get spares – not sure why you’d ever need to dishwasher a Mokka pot. Quick rinse and dry.

    Premier Icon cp
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    After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend….

    I’m with you on this. In the stove top it’s good stuff. Good caffeine hit too.

    Waitrose own brand espresso is currently my favourite of any. Nice as a weekend treat 🙂

    Premier Icon poolman
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    aP I bought some alessi teaspoons in tk Maxx,only a few quid for a box of 6, very nice too. If I see the stove top I ‘ll deffo buy one seeing how much they are.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    Who washes a coffee pot?

    I rinse mine daily.

    Premier Icon Sandwich
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    Is that a new wife you’re wanting

    After he’s finished the new patio.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    I think +1 would make things too complicated

    Made me laugh!

    My parents bought me a stainless Bialetti 20 years ago. I can’t see it ever needing replacing.

    OP, I can’t open your link for some reason. Skimlinks looks to be down. Which stovetop is the link for?

    Premier Icon jonnyfelloff
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    I dishwasher’d my stove pot too. Quite like its look now, like an aged patina.

    But these days I mostly use those new fangled coffee tea bags things so you should probably just ignore me.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    I dishwasher’d my stove pot too. Quite like its look now, like an aged patina.

    Yeah I’ve done it before as well (when I replace the seal for instance) A run through with water or sacrificial brew is enough to get rid of any lingering aftertaste. But folks like their rituals.

    Premier Icon squirrelking
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    Pezetti, my Bialetti ended up furring up just about after the first use and the seal was utter crap. The Pezettis (1 and 3 cup) are spot on and haven’t given me any grief.

    Premier Icon pondo
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    We’ve got an old aluminium Bialetti we bought years ago, makes one good big mug full – anyone able to guess what that translates into in terms of espresso cups? Quite fancy a Pezetti in stainless but don’t want the wrong size. 🙂

    Premier Icon stevious
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    makes one good big mug full

    I cannot imagine the damage I would do to society if I drank a whole mug of stovetop coffee.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    my Bialetti ended up furring up

    A stainless one? How?

    Premier Icon peaslaker
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    How do people drink Bialetti pond slurry? I can handle a 2 cup (double shot) moka pot but anything bigger makes an overextracted mess looking more like the stuff I can fish out of the Thames not far from my front door. Why does it taste like somebody dissolved a slice of burnt toast and called it coffee. Smells disgusting while its doing it and somehow it is a virtue not to wash the damn thing. Heathens

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Turn the heat down/off sooner. If you’re not using gas or induction, that means taking it off the hob.

    Premier Icon nickc
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    With stove tops timing is everything. You’ve pretty much got this teeny window between almost perfect lovely brew and pond sludge. Haha

    Premier Icon richardkennerley
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    I’ve a standard Moka pot and a Brikka. The Brikka makes a noticeable nicer brew. Think it’s because it takes s smaller amount of water and can be done on a lower heat.

    Premier Icon tomnavman
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    Also, start with boiling water from the kettle, not cold from the tap.

    I still use my aeropress daily for lack of mess & faff compared to the stove top, but there is something fun about the stovetop. Not used it for ages, might have to change that this weekend.

    Premier Icon duncancallum
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    Ohh for added snob factor I’m on an aga…

    Or should I just go for a bean to cup as tbf I mainly drink latte or a very milky brew anyway

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    You’ve pretty much got this teeny window between almost perfect lovely brew and pond sludge.

    This.

    Also, start with boiling water from the kettle, not cold from the tap.

    This.

    I much prefer espresso… but a good stove top brew is still very enjoyable… but you need to play close attention when the pot is on the heat.

    Aga/Rayburn can be hard to use for this, but starting with boiling water, and getting ready to remove to a trivet at just the right point, and it’s perfectly doable.

    Premier Icon toby1
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    time for some snobbery

    Without coffee snoberry we are no better than savages!*

    * Said purely to rile people, drink what you like.

    Premier Icon jkomo
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    Alessi, looks ace, not particularly expensive.
    Rinse only.

    Premier Icon mikertroid
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    Who washes a coffee pot?

    An Italian I worked with said I should never clean my Bialetti, just a rinse after use. Sounded a good excuse anyhoo!

    The window between delicious coffee and bitter sludge is very small indeed. I love a double espresso first thing in the morning and last thing at night….no idea how that works!

    Makes the best coffee IMHO.

    Premier Icon inkster
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    After reading on here i just made a stove top coffee with boiling water for the first time.

    Definitely tastes better.

    Why is that?

    Premier Icon Blackflag
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    its quicker to get up to pressure.

    Premier Icon convert
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    I cannot imagine the damage I would do to society if I drank a whole mug of stovetop coffee.

    I’m just finishing the dregs of my Bialetti 12 cup I put on at lunchtime. That’s 775ml of delicious coffee to you and me. There is only me in the department today (ain’t covid great) so no sharing required.

    Do you fancy being in my year 10 class last thing this afternoon – now do you punk?

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Why is that?

    You want to be getting the water through the coffee before the coffee gets toasted. So starting with hot water, and getting the pot off the heat as soon as possible, helps you achieve this.

    Premier Icon inkster
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    Well the boiling water trick made my £1:49 / 200g Lidl espresso ground coffee taste like illy, which is nearly 4 times the price!

    Premier Icon slowoldman
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    A Bialetti isn’t really espresso though is it? Though we also have a Bialleti cappuccino maker that doesn’t make proper cappuccino.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Well the boiling water trick

    This forum can occasionally deliver useful advice, it’s not all just a few weird men mass debating for their own amusement at the expense of useful and interesting conversion between everyone else.

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