Sometimes religion doesn't just invite ridicule, it positively begs for it

Looks like a non story to me tbh, bunch of arrogant **** act like dicks, completely ignoring local cultures and beliefs, get caught, claim freedom of speech/beliefs based around what you can do in another countries and moan when they are at risk of getting locked up.

Best result would seem to be a short spell in jail, big fine and deport them.

munrobiker – Member

Good to know that the UK university system is producing such high quality graduates.

Can you not be naked and smart? [/quote]

Or do you have to be smart to go to university nowadays …? 😮

convert – Member

To be fair, I can see how it could cause an eruption…

Did she arch her back?

Best result would seem to be a short spell in jail, big fine and deport them.

Really? Are there not bigger problems in the world? Or are you one of these?

Never weed against a tree or something? If you have maybe we should get you deported, after a lengthy spell in prison and a £1,500 fine 🙄

just out of interest why is being white and having dreadlocks an issue? Dreads have been part of european and world culture for 1000’s of years via the various tribal and spiritualist movements/beliefs. Dreads were most commonly associated with holy men, whether druid, shaman, hindu Yogis,eastern Gyanis, and Tapasvis as it linked the belief that, mental and spiritual energies mainly exit the body through the top of the head and the hair. If the hair is knotted, they believed, the energy remained within the hair and the body, keeping a person more strong and healthy.

dreads and plats were also worn by celtic and germanic tribes (there are various roman texts taking the piss out of them)

Rasta and the dread link didnt happen until the 1930’s so why the white dread hate? is it purely racial? or are all white dreaddies just stinky crusties and dropouts?

white dreaddies just stinky crusties and dropouts?

Mostly. They’re also a bit revolting.

I have a white mate who has natural dreads – genetic kickback I expect. Not sure what he’s supposed to do to ensure STW approval. Get shares in GHD I expect 😉

(though gap year dreads as an alternative to having a personality is pretty funny but haven’t we all done things that look stupid in hindsight?)

tazzymtb – Member
Rasta and the dread link didnt happen until the 1930’s so why the white dread hate? is it purely racial? or are all white dreaddies just stinky crusties and dropouts?

Coz they are trying to say … look at me! Look at me! I am cool!

Not cool man. Not cool.

Coz they are not these ” … holy men, whether druid, shaman, hindu Yogis,eastern Gyanis, and Tapasvis …”

Edit: unless you have natural curly hairs … but then ffs wash your hair!

Looks like a non story to me tbh, bunch of arrogant **** act like dicks, completely ignoring local cultures and beliefs, get caught, claim freedom of speech/beliefs based around what you can do in another countries and moan when they are at risk of getting locked up.

sounds like when Terry went to Magaluf and got caught shagging that Scouse bird up the back alley.

Meanwhile, in other religious news: Christian couple will divorce if gays can get married

Yes, the gays seem to get under the skins of the christians quite effectively. I found this article by mistake (whilst hunting for a review of the Transition Scout!). Sad that there was a need to write it, sadder that there was a rule at all, saddest are the comments at the bottom.

New York Chapter Hire Openly Gay Scout Leader[/url]

Never weed against a tree or something? If you have maybe we should get you deported, after a lengthy spell in prison and a £1,500 fine

That would be a completely fair valid point if we were talking about them weeding against a tree, but we aren’t, so you are just wasting air and owe everyone who read your post 15 seconds (5 seconds to read, and 10 thinking wtf is he on about).

Or are we at the point of pointless comparisons of what you can and can’t do and then trying to tie them into comments?.

A better comparison would be to pick a place that has cultural and historic importance to our culture and duplicate the circumstances, so would you have any issues with a group of cool travellers doing the whole wacky nude photo things and pissing everywhere (as you seem to think the pissing is important) at say Auschwitz, or would you feel that was disrespectful and should be discouraged?

Coz they are trying to say … look at me! Look at me! I am cool!

so may, but for others, it’s more linked with “my physical appearance and vanity is a distraction, I will leave it to naturally sort itself out, whilst I focus on the more important things in life” the other option is to shave it all off, but then you accused of being a white skin head nazi

just out of interest really, I’m as bald as kojak and could give a monkeys either way, but I find it interesting to see where peoples prejudices come from. Even PC right on STW types can be exceedingly judgmental 😀

I saw this on BBC…really wound me up.

Clicked on the news video and watched it till the end. Not…one…boob.

False advertising.

tazzymtb – Member
… I will leave it to naturally sort itself out, …

Just make sure you wash your hair unless of course you insist on “Look at me! Look at me! I am shy!” … 😆

just out of interest why is being white and having dreadlocks an issue?

It is a bit sweary, but this pretty much covers it:

Will McKenzie: Playing the guitar badly, wearing beads, talking about ‘one love’ and pretending you are friends with Central American villagers – who, by the way, despise you – before heading back to your parents five-bedroomed house in Surrey, doesn’t make you a spiritual person, it makes you a bell-end.

Ben: I think you’re right about his song, Katie

Will McKenzie: Oh, **** off, Ben! You don’t believe in ‘song lines’ any more than I do. It’s just a way for you to seem interesting to girls because deep down you know you’re boring and pretentious like your stupid **** dreadlocks. Which, by the way, always look embarrassing on white people. They’re not countercultural, they actually scream ‘Oh, I’ve got a trust fund!’ so get a normal haircut, you unbearable prick.

Chewkw and SOD earlier – spot on. Plus more culture than religion.

I have no issue with nudity itself and love a nice “natural” swim in a river. But respect for other cultures comes first. Crass thing to do and even crasser to publish. Brits abroad……?

Everest and Kinabalu are both sacred to their cultures and yet we show little or no respect. And yet we get agitated when a Gurkha squats and drops in Aldershot?!?

Speak for yourself.

*Remembers ‘boobquake’*

It wasn’t so silly getting your kit off up a sacred mountain. Taking pics and putting them on FB while still in the medieval country was stupid.

Mind you, if they’re so backward, why are they using the internest? And, down at the coast, would they respond to a tsunami warning?

I have a white mate who has natural dreads – genetic kickback I expect.

Are you sure he hasn’t just lost his comb?

We tried to straighten it once (this is before hair straighteners became popular) via washing and combing. Failed miserably 😉

and in a closer to home did they just say that moment
The catholic church in Oz decided to use these choice words in their anti gay marriage
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/05/darwin-catholic-school-sent-children-home-with-anti-gay-marriage-brochure

It also said that “messing with marriage” was “messing with kids”

T**ts.

Quite literally.

Meanwhile, in other religious news: Christian couple will divorce if gays can get married

Best. Response. Evar:
http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2015/06/11/same-sex-couple-threaten-not-give-shit-if-other-couple-divorces

Think what you like want about those gayers, but they certainly know a thing or two about a catty response. 😉

citing the church’s long experience of messing with kids and society

Mount Kinabalu is considered sacred by the Kadazan/Dusun tribe and the group was actually warned / told by the guide not to strip off or to show disrespect to the mountain area. I mean they were even urinating on the mountain which is a no no.

I read the article etc and thought ‘hope they do the jail time’.

Why did they do it? Arrogance and petulance no doubt. Malaysia is quite a diverse country, I’d love to visit their and try the many different cuisines.

As mentioned, you wouldn’t take the piss in Saudia Arabia would you?

Funny that.

As mentioned, you wouldn’t take the piss in Saudia Arabia would you?

No but when I was working there I did see a number of people shit on the patch of waste ground outside the office.

Was it a holy, revered or sacred site for locals? You might have missed a point.

I do liketh the pic that Convert posted above. It has a fantastic stratum.

Whatever your personal opinion on religion or religions be respectful. Just because you don’t believe in something doesn’t mean its wrong and you are right.

I suppose you think the New Orleans flood was caused by being nice to gay people, then? This is apparently the view of many religious Americans.

Of course, I’d respect a belief like that. Of course I would. No question.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-33105999

3 days in Jail and a £860 fine and will be deported.

Seems reasonable to me, 3 months (the max sentence) would have been harsh!

I suppose you think the New Orleans flood was caused by being nice to gay people, then? This is apparently the view of many religious Americans.

Of course, I’d respect a belief like that. Of course I would. No question.

You know, the meaning can be ironic and goes both ways:

bigot
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noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
“don’t let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city”
synonyms: dogmatist, partisan, sectarian, prejudiced person; More

Perfectly OK to find a primitive superstition to be risible, and mock it.

Got off lightly. A fine a 3 days prison backdated to when they were banged up. So, free to go.

Perfectly OK to find a primitive superstition to be risible, and mock it.

So you like sneering at other people’s cultures because you know better, nice…..

£860 😯

Blimey, that’s a hell of a lot of money for something so trivial. As is any more jail time than they’ve already had- they have, after all, been in prison for a few days already. I think they’d already learnt whatever lesson they were supposed to learn.

Could have been 3 months, sounds like because the prosecution couldn’t prove they swore at and abused the guide they got let off lightly. Fine seems reasonable to me as well, if someone had done something so stupid in Europe in a place of national significance then most people wouldn’t think this was unreasonable.

Might **** up further travels as well, as some countries are sensitive about letting people in who have spent time in jail (Australia? USA?)

They’ve been freed. They already spent the sentence on remand.

Perfectly OK to find a primitive superstition to be risible, and mock it.

Yeah, it’s not like we don’t send people to prison for 16 months for swinging off the cenotaph. The cenotaph essentially being a superstitious monument.

You think almost a thousand pounds is a reasonable fine for being naked on a hilltop? Honestly?

Maybe £86 if it’s really a problem.

Trivial to you. Why can’t you respect others cultures or beliefs?

If this sort of thing catches on I fear the people of North Wales might have a case against me.

You can hardly accuse all of religion, some 5-6b people, of being as ridiculous as some people in Malaysia because of this 🙄