SOME dog owners make me very angry…..

Humans have rights. dogs do not.

incorrect. they might not have the same rights, but they do have rights. but let’s not dwell on being reasonable.

let’s not dwell on being reasonable.

Indeed.

Dogs have rights? really? Please tell me how?

You have to be a human to have rights. Can a dog sue someone? We have duties towards dogs for sure as we do to all animals but its nonsense to suggest a dog has rights

you’re in your little ethical world aren’t you?
try the animal welfare act.

Kevin Bridges sums it all up in a minute!

chutney13 – Member

you’re in your little ethical world aren’t you?
try the animal welfare act.

No – that describes humans duties towards animals – not that a dog has rights.

my mistake, i shouldn’t have commented. your grasp of semantics is to be commended. i am sure you are capable of winning many arguments, well done. Have you thought of doing a law degree, i hear the tinpot academy is good.

Chutney – you appear to have got yourself in a bit of a pickle.
You’ll never beat TeeJ like that.

Its an important difference when people try to claim a dog has an equal right to a human – it does not.

Couldn’t stay away from it TeeJ. I’m disappointed in you.

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Nobby – rights? Its a legal concept only available to humans. Check it out. We have duties towards dogs, a dog has no rights at all and is not equal to a human as someone tried to claim.

So lets see some of these rights nobby

DD – Ok

So… anyhooooo… what do we think about cats? Cats are just, like, miles better than dogs, aren’t they?

I’m very very disappointed this thread isn’t littered with lolcats. Its a missed opportunity. Certain people (phil!) are slacking, and quite frankly need to up their game a little. Sort it out!

Some people think that dogs are stupid, mine, for example, would try to do something several times without success but eventually realised that simple repetition of the same pointless act would not achieve the result she wanted and would therefore give up.
Some people on the other hand….

rights or Rights, right?

I really didn’t want to post this, as it upset me so much the other day – but in light of TJ’s comments I’m assuming he thinks the likes of this is ok?

If you’re upset by cruelty to animals, I’d suggest not watching this.

Jes*s don’t get me on about cats. Mine is pure nasty, screw loose tortiseshell physco. Rules the big bad scary dogs with an iron claw.

Why would yo assume that? a very strange concept. 🙄

Its an important difference when people try to claim a dog has an equal right to a human – it does not.

TJ you appear to be trying to put words into other peoples mouths, to justify your own opinions …….. again

Please bear in mind when arguing with TJ, he bases his facts on ‘TJ Law’ which is in no way related to the real world. Also he has never owned a dog, or been trusted to look after children, and has absolutely no legal training or experience other than from watching Eastenders and re-runs of the Bill on Dave.

So all in all, you need to be very careful when discussing things with him, as he drags discussions down to a moronic level, and then beats you with his lifetime of personal experience.

Don’t great apes have rights in certain countries?

well i’m not watching that. no way,

Hartlepool?

well i’m not watching that. no way

Probably for the best. The point being, that if dogs don’t have rights – then they should, to protect them from humans!

‘TJ Law’

Sounds like a great TV series! Combination of TJ Hooker and LA Law!

Probably for the best. The point being, that if dogs don’t have rights – then they should, to protect them from humans!

Too true, All animals should. and those right should be no different from our Human Rights

richc – wrong on all counts but why let that stop you. A make a personal attack because you cannot counter the point. Several people have claimed dogs have rights or are equivalent to humans.

if dogs don’t have rights – then they should

Perhaps you could write them a constitution they could have enshrined in law? Will all the other animals have their own too? I’d hate to be the lawyer responsible for the hedgehogs one. Apparently they can be right arsey bastards. Proper militant, like!

Charlie – right to liberty? thats an end to dog owning then. No more animal farming. No more hunting.

Several people have claimed dogs have rights or are equivalent to humans.

I’d have to agree on this one TJ, as previously stated some dogs are more cleverer than some humans.

The five welfare needs
This means pet owners are now legally obliged to care for their pet properly – which most owners already do – by providing these five basic needs:

•somewhere suitable to live

•a proper diet, including fresh water

•the ability to express normal behaviour

•for any need to be housed with, or apart from, other animals

•protection from, and treatment of, illness and injury.

Does this not mean that animals are afforded rights under the act?

Article 4.
•No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

From the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I demand a fair wage for working dogs.

NOpe – they have needs and we have duties towards them.

Dogs do not need to be on a lead because a livestock sign is up, that sign could of been there months and even if there was livestock in the field as long as they’re a respectible distance and not chasing or playing amonst them then no harm done.

No but it makes perfect sense for them to be on a lead. so they don’t chase or play amongst life stock. All it takes is a rabbit and a dog will be off. A heard of cattle that is spooked by a dog is very dangerous.

Not to mention respect for others. If your on land thats not yours then you should be respectful.

People, TJ is right on this one.

Dogs do not have rights.
Humans have a legal obligation to them for many items, but that does not mean they have rights. Stop mixing your drinks.

And whoever it was who posted the video of animal cruelty suggesting that TJ thought that sort of thing was acceptable – grow up.

Surely the only right an animal has is the one about me not cooking them and eating them?

And lets face it, that only applies to certain more photogenic animals. In fact, if I was hungry enough, it wouldn’t apply to any of them

And whoever it was who posted the video of animal cruelty suggesting that TJ thought that sort of thing was acceptable – grow up.

Really – I thought it was perfectly mature the people suggesting to kick a dog… 🙄

Does this not mean that animals are afforded rights under the act?

Not really the owner has a duty of care.

Do great apes have rights?

Right what?