…what hope for a return to a Labour Government or LabLib coallition in 2015?
…or if the coallition implodes before then?

Most opinion polls since the last general election have given Labour a lead, with the suggestion that Labour would win any election called. I doubt whether they will need support from the LibDems – it was fairly untypical for the Tories as the party with the largest amount of votes not to win the election.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8280050.stm

folks have such short memories 🙁

No doubting they would win another election tomorrow,

also no doubting they would continue to **** the country and curtail your liberties just like last time 🙁

folks have such short memories

I have always assumed that the Tories failed to get a majority and win the general election in May 2010 precisely because people don’t have such short memories – no ?

A flock of rampaging rabid grey squirrels would do better in the polls (actually, better in general) than the Tories.

Milipede is a frighting thought though, a lame duck in opposition— what does he stand for ?? –fairness !!!! he is some brave plain speaking alternative –not

@ernie + 1

No danger of the Lib Dems being in any coalition, they are going to be obliterated. I expect a full renaming/rebranding from them after the next election.

To be honest Labour lack a solid leader, lack clear cohesive policies, lack drive and have a recent history which is less than peachy.

On the plus side, they’re not the tories. Lib dems will disapeer back into obscurity having proven that the third party were there for a reason.

Really, its time for the greens to get their act together and form a proper party and become a real opposition.

Really, its time for the greens to get their act together and form a proper party and become a real opposition.

To be fair the Greens have got their act together and become a proper party – beyond merely environmental issues. They now have a real commitment to social justice and peace.

What’s now required is that people vote for them. They can’t do much more until that happens.

Cameramoon ,Cleggy and millipede.

What damm idea have they got of running a corner shop let alone the country.

id vote for the rampaging rabid grey squirrels anytime, at least you can feed them and they are fun to watch, unlike the current shower.

I would love to have a government made up of specialists in their respective fields – business would be the old Tesco chairman or similar, defence would be a decent ex-military person, overseas aid by a mix of alan sugar and oxfam types. We could let greenpeace types run the environment. It may not work, who knows?, but at least we would be run by experts and not a load of politicians who often have little experience in general aside from squirming their way through the party system.

I would love to have a government made up of specialists in their respective fields – business would be the old Tesco chairman or similar, defence would be a decent ex-military person, overseas aid by a mix of alan sugar and oxfam types. We could let greenpeace types run the environment. It may not work, who knows?, but at least we would be run by experts and not a load of politicians who often have little experience in general aside from squirming their way through the party system.

Sounds like a bloody good idea to me.

the greens science policy is wackier than jeremey hunt being health secretary

I would love to have a government made up of specialists in their respective fields

Ones who didnt go to a fee paying school,

who had never experienced being short of money,

ones who actually had a job that was seen as worthwhile to other people around them,

ones that had to use public transport, and understood what a bus was,

someone who had been made redundant from a job,

someone who had to claim benefits to keep the roof over his head and to buy food,

someone who had relatives in a care home and had been ripped off by uncaring private care home companies.

and someone who had experience of life from the working class side of the fence.

Sounds like a bloody good idea to me

+1

right person for the job is pretty key to success in anything, running the country seems like an important thing to try and get right to me!

all overseen by our grand leader stephen fry of course

What is “science policy” ? Never heard of it.

Project , won’t be many who fulfil that criteria standing for election, maybe a handful of Labour candidates, i’m more in favour of a dictatorship of the proletariat 😉

Prime minister, Stephen Fry

Minister for transport, Jeremy Clarkson,

Minister for inovation and engineering, James May,

Health Minister,Drac

Social Services, Jeremy Kyle,

Finances, Lord Sugar,

Sport, Mark cavendish/Steve Peat, and Bradley Wiggins,

Treasury,Carol Vorderman

ernie_lynch – Member

What is “science policy” ? Never heard of it.

definately a green party supporter 😉

specifically im talking about their stance on animal testing, gm crops and nuclear power

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/apr/29/green-party-science-policy

definately a green party supporter

I’m not a Green supporter beyond voting for them. And that’s purely on the basis that their candidates were the only ones on my ballot paper standing on a social democratic platform – which kind of made it easy to decide.

As far as “science policy” is concerned I’m fairly sure I’ve never seen the term used in the manifesto of any party – including the Green Party. But I see from your link to the Guardian article that the term is used there in an all embracing nonspecific way, even with respect to education.

So I’m pleased that you’ve now narrowed it down to animal testing, gm crops and nuclear power. Yep, if those issues are particularly important to you, and you oppose the Green Party’s policies on them, then the Green Party is clearly not for you.

Ones who didnt go to a fee paying school

Why the bigoted attitude to fee paying schools? The state schools are utterly useless where I live. I go without to send my kids to a fee paying school and I’m lucky that I can just about afford to. So now they should be discriminated against for having a decent education? Sounds like the politics of envy to me!

I agree totally with the point about having experience of “real life” in a “real job” and not having only ever worked in the Westminister bubble. Ed Milliband, apart from being a bare faced liar, he misled parliament when he was energy secretary re carbon scrubbing technology in new coal fired power stations, has never had a “real job” outside politics.

If you look into whose done what in both the cabinet and the shadow cabinet you may be very surprised to find how many on both sides are from “privileged” backgrounds, fee paying and grammar school boys and girls mostly. And lets not forget the Oxford University educated Elite that dominates the shadow cabinet

There is one current Minister of State who was a squadie, then a builder, then a fireman before going to uni and getting a degree at 35.
And guess what he’s a Tory. I don’t believe nu-labour has one of those in its shadow cabinet.

Will they get re-elected in 2015? Not a cat in hell’s chance unless the economy turns round and quickly…. which leaves us with the Union Elected and union funded Ed Silliband and his miserable shower.

No danger of the Lib Dems being in any coalition, they are going to be obliterated. I expect a full renaming/rebranding from them after the next election.

Yes, sadly (have always voted LD) – a vote for them will be wasted.

I am sure there will be a change of Labour leader before the next election, as Millipede isn’t up to the job. As long as that **** Balls isn’t his replacement, I’ll be breaking with tradition and voting Labour next time.

Andy

Edit – that should read that condescending, background-pretty-much-identical-to-the-Tory-front-bench (including the public school education he’d like everyone to forget about, and the all-male Oxbridge drinking club), bullying **** Balls, and his equally odious wife

which leaves us with the Union Elected and union funded Ed Silliband and his miserable shower.

This might come as a shock to you but trade unions are actually legal organisations in this country, it’s not the IRA that’s funding Labour you know ?

Furthermore it’s common knowledge that trade unions fund Labour so if that’s a problem for anyone they are perfectly free not to vote for them 💡

Furthermore it’s common knowledge that trade unions fund Labour so if that’s a problem for anyone they are perfectly free not to vote for them

Well, that’s just quite splendid news.

It’s news to you too ? I thought it was probably just Gweilo.

Sounds like the politics of envy to me!

And have you actually thought why this phrase is back in fashion again with a tory government in power? Good for you that you can send your offspring to be privately educated, others who are obviously envious can’t afford to do so and have to send them to those “utterly useless” schools you refer to.

As you have pointed out, the political parties are full of those who have been educated privately, and many of the public see this as been advantageous to gaining jobs which are out of reach to mere mortals. That’s why you send your kids to be educated this way. Nobody likes a fair fight.

I would love to have a government made up of specialists in their respective fields
Ones who didnt go to a fee paying school,

who had never experienced being short of money,

ones who actually had a job that was seen as worthwhile to other people around them,

ones that had to use public transport, and understood what a bus was,

someone who had been made redundant from a job,

someone who had to claim benefits to keep the roof over his head and to buy food,

someone who had relatives in a care home and had been ripped off by uncaring private care home companies.

and someone who had experience of life from the working class side of the fence.

That’s the labour party out then.

This might come as a shock to you but trade unions are actually legal organisations in this country, it’s not the IRA that’s funding Labour you know ?

At least the IRA are upfront about wanting to destroy our country.

I see, trade unions are obviously even worse than the IRA.

How old are you Gorehound ?

Looks like from now on every election is going to be won by shutting the **** up, not mentioning anything that could be possobly construed as anything resembling an actual ‘policy’. But instead just pointing at whoevers presently in power , and saying “at least I’m not that **** eh?”

Oh Jesus! Gorehound’s spoken. I’m sure he’ll shortly be lambasting John Redwood for being a yoghurt knitting, pinko, lefty commy pussy! He’s like the distilled effluent of Norman Tebbits foaming spittle

This might come as a shock to you but trade unions are actually legal organisations in this country, it’s not the IRA that’s funding Labour you know

And do you know how the election for labour leader worked Ernie?? I assume you don’t so I’ll enlighten you.

If your a member of the labour party you get a vote
If your a member of an organization affiliated with the labour party you get another vote, or votes if your in more than one organization
If your a member of a union, they get to block vote for you

A friend of mine got 4 votes in the labour leadership election… One man 4 votes seems somehow wrong to me.

I won’t even respond to your pathetic IRA comment as it seems to be your usual trolling

Ah, Tories still blaming those big bad unions, while conveniently forgetting the villains who actually brought the country to it’s knees contribute a large amount of money to their party.

Why are you going on about the links between some trade unions and the Labour Party Gweilo, it’s not news – everyone knows about it.

You’ve obviously got a problem with it. So don’t vote Labour.

it’s not the IRA that’s funding Labour you know

Nope, it was the KGB wasn’t it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/5200809/Former-KGB-colonel-says-he-paid-late-union-leader-Jack-Jones-200-for-information.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/7377111/Was-Foot-a-national-treasure-or-the-KGBs-useful-idiot.html

I’m not a Green supporter beyond voting for them

Classic!

I’ve come to the conclusion, that all of them, are useless bunch of **** ****.
Whoever ends up in power, the rich get richer, and the rest get screwed.

El-Bent I think its utterly wrong that any kids get a sub-standard education in poorly equipped schools in this day and age. They all deserve a decent education, in decent schools, without political interference a la Gove and the GCSE results

Like I said I’m lucky I can just about afford private education, and they’re not at a Harrow or Eton or even Rugby girls, as they are both girls. I choose to educate them that way as its my duty as a parent to give them the best start in life I can. And you’re right its not a fair fight but what in the real world is?

To be fair the Greens have got their act together and become a proper party – beyond merely environmental issues. They now have a real commitment to social justice and peace.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, you’re serious?

Great, now they just need to define what “social justice” is if it’s not communism, and what exactly they intend to do with the MOD under their definition of ‘peace’.

And what exactly would they do if they became the leaders of the country? Once they’ve turned the powerstations off and made the MOD redundant?

define what “social justice” is if it’s not communism

😆

Nope, it was the KGB wasn’t it?

Who along with Gadaffi funded the IRA.