So is Gary Glitter being executed?

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okay, not for real, but makes an interesting point for debate.

Theres a faction within C4 that has a bit of a reputation of making or sourcing quite dodgy data to base their fact based programmes on (like the one that claimed that global warming was a myth that had to go to great lengths to gather and present unreliable, incomplete and incomparable data to create a case)

The factual 'point' behind this one is that a poll has shown that a large majority of the population would support the reintroduction of the death penalty. This is poll that C4 conducted itself as part of the making of the programme, so they knew what answer they wanted when they asked the question.

Early press releases did indicate that C4 had done this poll itself, but the press releases that are being published today has changed that to 'Polls' plural and skipped C4's role in the evidence gathering.

So yes, it makes an interesting point for debate, but its a debate where all the participants might prove to be ill-informed.

Channel 4 in broadcasting more sh*te shocker.

Great – a short drop and a sudden stop.

At least I'll have something other than Saddam hanging around to watch…. 😯

Whatever happened to offender education and rehabilitation?

the very phrase 'documentary style drama' is one i find obscene.

make one or the other, anything else is just blatant sensationalism

Whatever happened to offender education and rehabilitation?

It isn't enough fun for some people

"the great global warming swindal" or whatever it was called was an attempt to give some kind of ballance to the debate, I very much doubt anyone involved in the production actualy believed in what they were produceing.

Taking one side of a scentific argument and presenting it as a face was a trait of a certain nationalist party in Germany during the 1930's and 40's (and thus fourfilling Goodwins law). Unforunately in order for a debate to occour you need two sides, and what if a scientist somewhere comes out and conclusively proves that the icecaps are melting due to volcanic activity, and the aditional CO2 is coming form somewhere else? Should we hush them up just because we believe soemting else to be true? If we did that we'd still be worshiping the sun and believeing th eworld to be flat.

So by executing Gary Glitter – it will reduce global warming? 🙂

In the event though what the Global Warming Swindle programme was doing was taking sources of data and research that weren't comparable or compatible with each other, or which were flawed or incomplete and assembling them into a case/story that the individual elements of research didn't support. In pretty much every case the researchers would have had to wade through swathes of much more credible evidence to find the aberations that they were using to illustrate their point.

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Whatever happened to offender education and rehabilitation?

It isn't enough fun for some people

I believe, based on very knowledgeable sources, that this class of offender is pretty much beyond education and rehabilitation

So by executing Gary Glitter – it will reduce global warming?

Only if its done sustainably – if they electrocute him they need to plant a tree to offset the carbon

this class of offender is pretty much beyond education and rehabilitation

The Thames Valley Project reckon "97 per cent of those who undertake the programme will not go on to be reconvicted of a sexual offence"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2009/nov/07/charlie-brooker-screenburn-gary-glitter

this class of offender is pretty much beyond education and rehabilitation

The Thames Valley Project reckon "97 per cent of those who undertake the programme will not go on to be reconvicted of a sexual offence"

… yes they just become more devious to ensure that they keep below the radar.

The Thames Valley Project reckon "97 per cent of those who undertake the programme will not go on to be reconvicted of a sexual offence"

That's comforting, only 3% worth hanging then? 😉

I thought the lack of death penalty was what seperated Britain from the uncivilized world and Daily Mail readers.

I'm just amazed that they got Gary Fisher to play Gary Glitter in this. I didn't know he acted (though some would surely assert that he's acted most of the last 30 odd years that he invented mountainbikes).

Good choice IMHO, looks just like him and of course being named Gary obviously made things easier for the fish man.

I was a roadie at some venues in Manchester. Gary Glitter appeared at one of them in the twilight of his career.

He used his own caravan as a changing room with a bit of tarpaulin stretched across to the firedoor. A class act. He used a yamaha 125 to drive on for leader of the gang. Yes, a truly class act.

Anyway, my mate and fellow roadie Dean put on one of Mr Glitter's suits and was doing a jokey Glitter routine. In walks gary glitter, and stands behind Dean. You know the score. Dean carries on oblivious, we're trying to discretely draw attention to the fact that the owner of the funny spangly suit is stood behind him looking most vexed. He was a complete get on Dean. A more public humiliation of a meek lickul roadie I have yet to see. He was truly vitriolic. Which was weird coming from a short fat bald guy in a wig and a silver suit, but there you go.

On the positive side, in the middle of his tirade on Dean, some 10 yr old scally stuck his head through the tarpaulin, looked at Glitterman in his full regalia and said "**** ell who's that fat bastid".

Glitter, for disrespecting Dean Bembo, you should die. End of. Everything else is incidental.

The Thames Valley Project reckon "97 per cent of those who undertake the programme will not go on to be reconvicted of a sexual offence"

I believe the figure is 100% for execution.

(more if you include the odd innocent executee, I suppose.)

I believe the figure is 100% for execution.

(more if you include the odd innocent executee, I suppose.)

We could reduce the worlds problem of over population in this way. 😀

looks like its going pear-shaped for Gary….

Cheaper and safer option.

my question about this.. has ch.4 had to pay GaryGlitter in any way for use of his name or images?

if so they should never have made it.

Well, they played his music – so somebody is getting royalties for sure.
Not sure about image rights tho.

It wasn't thought provoking. Didn't ask any questions. Was more like a C4 lynch mob.

I think this whole Gary Glitter thing is hilarious as obviously he is a sick individual but people still flock to see the Micheal Jackson movie and buy his music. As far as I am concerned the public are very narrow minded and blinkered as to what they want to believe and what the media tell them to think.

It was a bit crap though wasn't it? I got bored before he hanged.

What a really odd programme. Why Gary Glitter? Why not some anon that had done something really bad. It came over to me as a character study of him, rather than an analysis of the pros and cons of the death penalty.