Should Levi Bellfield face capital punishment?

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  • Should Levi Bellfield face capital punishment?
  • Premier Icon wwaswas
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    because we're better than him?

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    so if i give you a hammer will you cave his head in?

    TandemJeremy
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    Do we have to do this again?

    1) where do you draw the line for those who are hanged?

    2) what happens with miscarriages of justice? Stephen Downing Stefan Kisko, guildford four?

    answer those two questions and you can start hanging people.

    In a country of liberal tolerance, people like this can continue to totally run roughshod over the law.

    I am fairly sure he would do it in an autocracy or any other system.

    coffeeking
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    While I can see some very big pros for CP, I can also see some very big negatives. Plenty of people have been released with a pardon after mistakes were found, can't dig peolpe up and revive them.

    roper
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    Should Levi Bellfield face capital punishment?

    NO

    Mr Woppit
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    No, but "life" should mean "life".

    deadlydarcy
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    Oh another capital punishment thread? I'll save my breath…whatever TJ says +1

    IanMunro
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    Help me out here because I can see no reason why this monster shouldn't suffer the fate he's doled out to some of his victims.

    What you have to do is separate out what you'd like to personally do (and personally I'm with you, some people are a waste of oxygen) and what is practical within a legal framework. So in the case of the death penalty you then also have to accept that some innocent people will also be executed. Now clearly some people are absolutely guilty of their crimes, but if you were to try and frame this in law you'd then need laws for the innocent, the guilty and the really guilty. Of course if you did that, anyone found guilty would immediately appeal, that there wasn't convincing evidence against them, so it's a bit of a non starter.

    Pigface
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    As Carrot says "Revenge isnt the same as justice" or is it Vimes.

    Capital punishment? No.

    He has, however, foregone claim to any rights as a human being in my eyes. Stick him in a 8' x 8' padded room with no clothes (so he can't fashion some kind of suicide device, not because I'm a perv) and feed him the absolute minimum required to stay alive and healthy, for the rest of his life. Surely that wouldn't be a burden on the public purse.

    Premier Icon D0NK
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    thought it was "personal isnt the same as important"

    people like this can continue to totally run roughshod over the law

    isnt that from the daily mail big book of outraged soundbites?

    Premier Icon nickc
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    Look up the words Revenge and Justice in the OED

    HTH

    dickydutch
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    +1 The Flying Ox.
    Minimal cost to the taxpayer, and he is out of the public environment where he is onviously a menace.

    cynic-al
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    A big "no" for CP. Shame they don't seem to have said whether he'll get charged or not (I am guessing the OP will see no need for a fair trial of course!)

    What was the Torygraph's position on Ronnie Biggs? (just wondering how consistent it is on crims)

    Spongebob
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    A chronically violent man who has no regard for women, or anyone else for that matter. If things didn't go his way, he took a hammer to his victims, many attacks were completely unprovoked.

    A brief outline of his history

    Why should we tolerate violent control freaks who wreak fear, violence and murder on decent innocent people?

    He'll get locked up and will continue to be a danger to others and at vast expense to the public purse. I'm sure his bad influence will rub off on some of the other inmates too.

    In a country of liberal tolerance, people like this can continue to totally run roughshod over the law.

    Is there really no situation where a death penalty could apply, such as this case?

    Help me out here because I can see no reason why this monster shouldn't suffer the fate he's doled out to some of his victims.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    No-one should kill anyone else, ergo CP is wrong. In fact, it's more than wrong, it's one of the blackest most utterly inhuman thing anyone could ever do.

    To look into someone's eyes, slip the needle into their arm and press the plunger, then watch as the life fades away. Psychopaths do this kind of thing yes but they have the excuse of a screwed up brain. Capital punishment is dished out by mainstream society who should bloody well know better.

    I really do have nightmares about this. One of the worst things in the sphere of human endeavour I think.

    *shudder*

    Shibboleth
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    As soon as you return to capital punishment, you make a murderer out of the person that delivers the lethal injection; the judges that make those decisions; accomplices of those 12 good men and true that convicted him.

    Although my political views might often be described as slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan, I would not feel comfortable if society made murderers out of many in the pursuit of "justice" for the few.

    Human life is the most precious thing we possess, and nobody has the right to end that. I think that anyone who takes life should be prevented from ever doing it again, but for society to take an eye for an eye makes us all murderers.

    Lock him up and throw away the key. As a tax payer, I have no qualms about funding a prison system if it works, and I'd be more than happy for my taxes to pay for him to be held – without privelege or luxury – for the rest of his life. It's just a shame that he probably won't.

    Premier Icon ton
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    beat him, hang him, then burn the ba5tard. πŸ˜€

    and to all you soft lefty pc lot……….. πŸ™„

    soobalias
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    pass me the hammer.

    TandemJeremy
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    So ton – will you answer the two questions?

    1) where do you draw the line for those who are hanged?

    2) what happens with miscarriages of justice? Stephen Downing Stefan Kisko, guildford four?

    Premier Icon ton
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    teej, there is always gonna be a few mistakes……….but with the law of averages…it will equal it's self out…. 8)

    simonralli2
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    You say it is wrong to kill. But to punish people, you believe it is right to kill.

    I have always failed to understand the logic of capital punishment. If it is wrong to kill, it is wrong to kill.

    deadlydarcy
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    ton, your trolling is so obvious now it's worrying even me. You need to take a break and hone your skills again πŸ™‚

    Premier Icon mtbfix
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    I've often wondered what a lot of trolls in one place looks like. It is either this sort of thread or something like this –

    cynic-al
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    Erudite and well reasoned argument of the highest order there ton πŸ™„

    sofatester
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    Don't feed the troll πŸ˜‰

    zaskar
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    Open arguement…

    but the public should be protected 1st by kee ping him away from the society he does not fit with his values and super ego differences.

    Premier Icon ton
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    ok then, put him in a nice cell, with sky tv, porn on demand, and let rose west come to see him once a week for a hours fun……. πŸ™„

    cynic-al
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    Yes ton, that really is the only alternative and is exactly what prisons are like. Don't tell me, it was in the Daily Fail what you read it? πŸ™„

    Premier Icon ton
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    al, only paper i ever read is a local sports one.

    seriously…what would you do with him.

    Dales_rider
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    Use drugs to extract the truth if he did it give him to the parents to decide.

    clubber
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    That's revenge which is nothing to do with justice

    Lock him up in humane but very spartan conditions for life. Eg prison without the Daily Mail stereotype luxuries that I very much doubt are the norm for people convicted of murder.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    To some people, punishment and deterrent is completely meaningless, and is therefore useless.

    Detaining suck a person indefinitely would be highly beneficial to the public, but justice as such isn't really possible in a situation where someone's dead and the culprit doens't understand punishment.

    Eccles
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    It's not been mentioned, but I suspect its the career as a wheelclamper bit that's really upset most of the foaming types on here.

    Life for murder – we're not Texans, after all – but death to all wheelclampers.

    Junkyard
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    first two posters sum this up yes we are better than him, murder is bad even if we do it to him.
    Ton are you baiting the lefties ❓

    cynic-al
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    seriously…what would you do with him.

    I don't know enough about what works best (I doubt you've researched it either) but it would probably be some combo of rehabilitation, work, deterrence, punishment & restorative justice.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Cynic-al – that might never work with a true psychopath

    KT1973
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    Should Levi Bellfield face capital punishment?

    I think so. His reggae reggae sauce was shit

    cynic-al
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    I know, I know – don't think we should give up trying though.

    LOL at KT1973

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