Last night I was riding up a snowy backlane just outside Bath and came across a small Peugeot stopped in the middle of the road with the hazards going and engine off. Thought I should make sure that they were okay so pulled up alongside the drivers window. Young girl (20ish), quite posh, rolled down the window.
Me: Are you okay.
Her: Actually, can you help. I set off up this hill and suddenly my car won't go forward, I don't understand whats going on, can I show you.
Me: Okay.
Her: - starts the engine, puts it first, lets out the clutch and front wheels spin.
Her: Can you see what's happening?
Me: (trying to stifle a giggle) Your front wheels are spinning on the snow so you can't go up the hill, snow is quite slippery.
Her: Oh (genuinely surprised), so will I need to reverse back down.
Me: Yes, I would say that was the best idea.
Her: Okay, I'll try that.
Daft bint didn't understand that cars don't have grip on snow, then had just turned off the engine and was sitting there hoping something would change. Sometimes do wonder how these people survive.
Made my morning! Still chuckling!
What next? Put my window washers on and now i can't see?
I'd have left her where she sat, no advice. Reward idiocy with the contempt it richly deserves.
The chauffeur normally deals with such metters.
pics ?
😉
I'd have left her where she sat, no advice. Reward idiocy with the contempt it richly deserves.
And the world would be a better place for that would it ?
Bazzer
Did you get her number?
It would if she died of hypothermia, preferably before breeding.
And this applies to both sexes, before screams of sexism are issued.
And the world would be a better place for that would it ?
Yes, she's far less likely to cause an accident while stationary.
Yes, she's far less likely to cause an accident while stationary.
i find this offensive. prove this with facts or i'll set TJ on you 😈
What is it with this forum and the seemingly limitless contempt for other people? What happened to humanity and kindness and empathy? Is this what Santa died for?
That is what i dont understand Graham, some folk know they lack the basic skills nescesary for safe travel in these conditions, yet insist on venturing out in cars and being danger tothemself and others. I dont mind anyone being a danger to themself, but i strongly object to them injuring innocent third parties.
Santas Dead????!!!!!!!!
The same thing that happened to taking responsibility for your own actions mate.
What happened to humanity and kindness and empathy?
Don't be silly, Jesus came along on his dinosaur and rescued Santa off the cross 🙄
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Plenty of people have no clue about driving other than in normal conditions.
Is this what Santa died for?
Now the cat is out of the bag.
I said it in a flippant way, but U31 sums it up well.
If she doesn't understand that it won't go up hill, I doubt she understands it won't stop down hill.
The world's a safer place with her not moving.
Santa was in Gerrards Cross?
Santas Dead????!!!!!!!!
He was run over the other day by some STW forum muppet with one winter tyre on a non-driveside wheel making an essential journey to work so he could sneer at his colleagues and belittle anyone he saw on the way 😉
Was she fit? (uh oh...)
MODERATORS!!!
Matt's being a very naughty boy! Again!!!
I think djgolver is heading for some time off too !
Is this what Santa died for?
Surely a shoo-in for STW comment of the year? PMSL
Plenty of people have no clue about driving other than in normal conditions.
Plenty of people have no clue about driving [s]other than[/s] in normal conditions.
some folk know they lack the basic skills nescesary for safe travel in these conditions
but that's the point, they don't know they lack the basic skills. Tailgated all the way into work today on slippery roads and -11 deg, by a...........Range Rover Sport - 6 ft off my back bumper the whole way, even despite me touching the brakes a few times in the hope they would back off. Simple physics - his/her car weighs at least 1.5 mine, roads covered in ice, mine will stop first if I have to jump on the brakes for whatever reason. grrrr 😥
TBH, that's a pet hate of mine currently. So many people's idea of driving in icy conditions is to dribble around at 15mph, six inches from the car in front.
ianc - you were doddering along at 3mph like a terrified pensioner and I claim my £5.
Despite the flippancy of my original post, what i was getting at is there seems to be a general lack of consequence for stupidity these days. The consensus is, someone else will help.Someone else will make decisions for me.
What if there was consequence.? What if the onus of your actions was entirely on yourself?
If it looks dangerous i wont do it. End of story.
This aint rocket science.
Brilliant story!
(do people like bazzer really exist? You know, in the real world? Or are they internet bots programmed to spoil any sense of humour the internet may have? They bloody annoy me anyway.)
Darwin to the forum.... 😆
Don't forget - STWers all KNOW better and DRIVE better than everyone else.
Praise the LORD of righteousness!
U31 - oooh a bit risky posting that pic... 😆
Isnt it posited somewhere that the human race is the only species that can cultivate regressive genes thanks to the intellectual and personal protection our society structures provide?
if you could quite easily help someone and choose not to you're a 'swearfiltermeltdown'
presumably the selfish smug arseholes here would allow a surgeon or paramedic to help them if they got into a spot of bother through their own 'ignorance'? or would they choose to be martyrs to the cause?
lots of people can't drive. obviously lots of people are emotionally retarded too. maybe the girl who can't drive has some other value to society which her driving skills have masked.
Should I post it again? 😈
ok, hands up, 😆 but that's as fast as my RWD BMW goes when I am revving the guts out of it in first gear in the snow and ice 😀ianc - you were doddering along at 3mph like a terrified pensioner and I claim my £5.
some folk know they lack the basic skills nescesary for safe travel in these conditions
but that's the point, they don't know they lack the basic skills. Tailgated all the way into work today on slippery roads and -11 deg, by a...........Range Rover Sport - 6 ft off my back bumper the whole way, even despite me touching the brakes a few times in the hope they would back off. Simple physics - his/her car weighs at least 1.5 mine, roads covered in ice, mine will stop first if I have to jump on the brakes for whatever reason. grrrr
just confirms that the particular vehicle driver mentioned is still convinced that they own the road in ALL conditions!
Then at least you were moving forwards - unlike the fleet of BMWs I saw stranded on the side of the road this morning 🙂
but that's the point, they don't know they lack the basic skil
There are known knowns;
there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns;
that is to say,
there are things that we now know
we don’t know.
But there are also
unknown unknowns;
there are things we do not know
we don’t know.
I dave, apart from under police escort, i've only once been to A&E of my own volition one time.... That was a suspected sub arachnoid heamatoma, hardly an action or consequence of ignorance.
sub arachnoid heamatoma
spider bite?
[i]maybe the girl who can't drive has some other value to society which her driving skills have masked.[/i]
Maybe [b]the girl who can't drive[/b] shouldn't be sat behind the wheel of a car?
Stoner,it's pretty obviuos, Other drivers pull cleanly off their driveways and progress at a steady safe pace, the clueless sit there wheelspinning or with the car yawing side to side every time a driven wheel breaks traction. That would tell me i needed a further level of tuition.
how do a handful of posts get vacuumed out of the thread? I swear we should be on 45 posts now?
1. unconsciously incompetent
2. consciously incompetent
3. consciously competent
4. unconsciously competent
Four stages of learning skills/etc and much as I dislike him, pretty much what Dick (swear filter?) Cheney was getting at...
Seems like a lot of people are 1 when driving in these conditions.
U31 - I just own a skill compensator 4x4 with snow tyres. Im probably a lousy snow driver in a BMW too 🙂
nice translation there clubber 😉
Stroke to a layman. The blood appears like a spiderweb under scans hence the name.
who'd've thunk doctors could be so romantically descriptive?
Always remember my second ever driving lesson, 17y.o., day after boxing day. About 4" of snow had been dumped overnight & it was still snowing & I had a scheduled lesson for that day, & I was expecting the lesson to be cancelled.
But no, my instructor turned up, & his reckoning was that in the future, at some point, I would have to drive in snow, so I might as well learn in it. Even though it was only my 2nd lesson, for sure it was the most valuable.
If you don't know snow is slippery, how can you be expected to know that it might be dangerous to drive around in it?
Catch 22 - if you're really dim you aren't bright enough to know how dim you are.
Range Rover Sport - 6 ft off my back bumper the whole way
I usually pull over when this happens.
What is it with this forum and the seemingly limitless contempt for other people? What happened to humanity and kindness and empathy? Is this what Santa died for?
Definitely comment of the year. What a hero!
come on people lets get back to the real question we are all wanting to ask...
young girl is discovered by helpful passer by down a dark lane where she cant get her car to move
was there steamy window involved in the thank you?
Stroke to a layman. The blood appears like a spiderweb under scans hence the name.
What a great piece of knowledge, thank you!
Totally agree with what iDave said, there really is an abundance of smug people on this thread. You would honestly walk past someone rather than help them? That's a pathetic way to behave
You could of fulfilled her fantasy a knight riding towards her on a shiny steed, driven her car out of trouble then getting your reward from fair maiden.
U31 - you're presuming you'll never need any help in future through your own ignorance or error. You are invincible and I claim my £5 NHS voucher
I have owned between 5 and 15 4wd vehicles per year sine i was about 18 year old, driven them in far worse conditions then these and seldom got stuck, only once had to be towed out to be rescued,and even then i could have self extracted, but opted for the easiest method of recovery.
For the last 3 year i havent needed a 4wd for work, so 2wd hatchbacks vans and mpv's have been my choice. These 2 wd cars have been to the same farms the landrovers have, and never got stuck, last winter i was all over the north yorks moors and never got stuck, this winter, so far- touch wood-i havent got stuck. No chains. No winter tyres. Just a shovel a brush some sacks and carpet mats for traction, and plenty of layered clothing.
I wouldnt class myself as an excetional driver, i merely risk asses the situation. If a road looks impassable, i will turn around.
I'm sitting LOLing at you lot. What colour was the car? Might have to make a phone call
U31 - driving around in the sticks you get a lot of smooth packed snow, which is actually a fair bit grippier than the salty slush you get in cities.. just sayin 🙂
(do people like bazzer really exist? You know, in the real world? Or are they internet bots programmed to spoil any sense of humour the internet may have? They bloody annoy me anyway.)
Original story was really funny so see I do exist and I do like a joke 🙂
I'd have left her where she sat, no advice. Reward idiocy with the contempt it richly deserves.
It was just not funny, There are a lot of people involved in outdoor sports with this attitude, if your crap at something then you should stay at home. I guess these people were born good at everything.
Yes, she's far less likely to cause an accident while stationary.
Funnier 🙂
Bazzer
Totally agree with what iDave said, there really is an abundance of smug people on this thread. You would honestly walk past someone rather than help them? That's a pathetic way to behave
+ a million
[i]It was just not funny,[/i] to me
FTFY
I live in Bolton, and Manchester - plenty of hardpack ice on the back roads.
I have owned between 5 and 15 4wd vehicles per year sine i was about 18 year old
Blimey, you go through that many cars a year?
You are Arthur Daley AICMFP.
Blimey, you go through that many cars a year?
Yeah he had to get a new one every time the old one got stuck/crashed.
there are some smug people on here but you also have someone driving a car in snow with no idea what to do when it does not grip [or indeed that it is slippy] and they just stop in the middle of the road blocking it for other users- seriously is this SAFE?. I am also on these roads with this person and in all honesty I would prefer she had stayed at home given her skil and knowledge base.
gender looks are not important but clearly she is not a skilled driver
I'm learning to drive, test cancelled 3 times due to weather! But learning on the ice and snow has been really valuble. Learning to brake slower and use engine breaking at junctions, steering into skids etc.. All good fun. Should have started this driving thing years ago.
Saturday afternoon driving back from Cambridge roads were 5" deep in fresh snow so very slow going. All the other drivers behaving sensibly, nice low speed, plenty stopping distances etc. But not for the king of the road in the Porsche 4x4 tailgating me all along. 12 inches if my back bumper for miles then at the first sign of a break in oncoming traffic, they floor it, immediately spinning it and coming to rest on the other side if the road facing back where they had come form. Natural justice!
I certainly was, Ocrider, i used to deal in them in a former life.
Ha ha thought I might know who this was but she's skiing.
there's 60 million people in the UK emsz, you probably dont know who this is. 🙂
have a sherry.
The purist, i aint crashed since i was 18. A mini snapped a trackrod end off and i hit a wall, and i was plainly driving too fast for the conditions in a peugeot 305. Young, daft and inexperienced in both instances.
At the risk of incurring the righteous indignation of the great and good on here:
You're driving on a quiet country road you know well when your lights die with only a few miles to go. Full moon and clear sky. Do you stop and walk/taxi/lift or just go on slowly, pulling in when cars pass?
I'd drive flat out Al, get home much sooner, less time to be a danger...
Eh? I don't get it al. Your lights have died but your car is still drivable? So all the bulbs have broke at the same time? Assuming you can't fix the lights yourself, walk. Lights are to show your visibility not just illuminate the road.
Catflees, ihad that happen once.
The diodes in the alternater failed, causing all bulbs including instruments, to blow simultaneously when the voltage spiked.
And yes i carefully drove on.
There are a lot of assumptions being made about this woman's driving ability and knowledge of snow/ice conditions based on someone elses assumptions based on a short conversation.
Its an internet forum, mate, thats how it works.
It aint real life ya knaaaa...
A 20 year old posh girl lacking common sense?
top notch 😉
A friend's daughter got stuck in a queue of traffic with white van man stuck at the front. She got out of the car and went and asked if she could help. White van man sneered and said 'Why, what are you going to do?". She calmly said, "put it in second and take your foot off the accelerator". Seconds later that van drove off and the queue got going. She went back to her car with congratulations from the queue. 😀
A 20 year old posh girl lacking common sense?top notch
"If i just push this "joystick" up there, i promise you the car will move.."
😈
A friend's daughter got stuck in a queue of traffic with white van man stuck at the front. She got out of the car and went and asked if she could help. White van man sneered and said 'Why, what are you going to do?". She calmly said, "put it in second and take your foot off the accelerator". Seconds later that van drove off and the queue got going. She went back to her car with congratulations from the queue.
in the wordz of da kidz: EPIC WIN 😀