Scottish Woodburner Ban In New builds

“Cheap temporary heating source for a few days? £66 plus £60 gas bottle did us 10 days.

£10 a day for a 4kw single heat source is hardly cheap.”

We’re talking about the people saying they need wood stoves in case there’s some kind of emergency.

Judging by the photos above, the quickest way to improve the air quality in your houses would be limit the methane by banning dogs…

Garbage study above.

Open fires or stoves?

Even the picture in the article has a wood stove running with the doors open😂

Because tabloid journalists are well known for their attention to detail.

Cheap temporary heating source for a few days? £66 plus £60 gas bottle did us 10 days.

£10 a day for a 4kw single heat source is hardly cheap.

You’re right, better spend 5 years worth of 10 day stints on a complete wood burner.

I’d say that people buying a new build have pretty much given up on the joys of life. Letting them have a log burner would be a tantalising glimpse of the beauty they could have had. So the ban is a kindness I’d support.

New build =

no flaking lead paint

no asthma inducing fungi

mechanical ventilation with heat recovery

heathy materials not filling the air with carcinogens and alergens

Warm inWinter, cool in Summer

Safe electrics

No gas

Induction hob

Low maintenance

You forgot to mention the fun of the asbestos lottery.

That all said, new build estates are horrible soulless places, absolute epitome of live, laugh, love.

Seems like a romantic wishlist.

Which UK mass builder is ticking more than half of those boxes ?

That’s the issue though isn’t it? That shouldn’t be the case yet here we are. It’s not unproven, it’s just not as high margin to do it right.

Agreed but doesn’t change the notion that in your average mass produced  new build house in the UK  You shut the front door and your worried it’s going to fall down on you.

mechanical ventilation with heat recovery

This seems a very much needed thing. Whilst our house we live in is a shambles and moving it on a pipe dream. But the holiday let we run is finished to very different standards. I put an air quality monitor in there and the results were eye opening. On a dreich day 6 adult guests and a dog would lock themselves away and batten down and the CO2 levels would rise stupendously.

I guess it’s not surprising – a modern airtight box rather than our draughty old house with 7 sets of lungs is going to do that. I don’t think too many houses in the UK have got them fitted yet, but it needs to be a thing if we are going to build houses to these better standards.

Mechanical ventilation, open a fxxxing window every now and again

You missed the heat recovery part – opening a window loses all the heat in the exhausted air whereas mvhr recovers almost all of it into the incoming air

Mechanical ventilation, open a fxxxing window every now and again

Well, that’s an embarrassing reply…….how to make yourself look a tit…with a “fxxxing” for emphasis 😀

Just completed and moved into our new self build with air source heating and log burner with external direct air kit fitted. It’s a modern clear skies one that is so efficient and clean burning. The problem comes if the wood burned is not  correctly seasoned. Wouldn’t want to be without ours.all that will happen now is they will get fitted once house has been signed off.

It’s not embarrassing me as I don’t have or will have in my lifetime left a mvhr system in my house, a Worcester combi boiler to heat my water and a Morso log stove

I do like fresh air so the windows do get opened

“I do like fresh air so the windows do get opened”

Mvhr draws in fresh air, it’s just preheated by the air you dump out.

It’s a modern clear skies one that is so efficient and clean burning

Cleaner, maybe, but not clean.

It seems that while the new ban includes no biomass boilers in new builds you can get a £9k subsidy to install one in an existing house. Right hand obviously unaware of what left hand is doing

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24252775.confusion-biomass-boiler-ban-subsidies-install/

Winters are certainly not getting colder. Nor are they likely to in the future.

Lol. Earth calling sun, an expert on singletrack world (something about bicycles possibly) says you’re not allowed to decrease in activity over the next few decades, so none of that ‘solar minimum ‘ stuff, ok?

Hey NASA, do you think that will make the slightest difference?

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/what-happens-if-the-next-solar-cycle-becomes-less-active-will-we-enter-into-a-new-ice-age/

Oh.

Should read in “isolated rural situations”.

TBH, Melpitz is certainly not what i’d call isolated, or rural. Deprived and underdeveloped maybe…

£10 a day for a 4kw single heat source is hardly cheap.”

We’re talking about the people saying they need wood stoves in case there’s some kind of emergency.

£5k plus seasoned/kiln-dried wood at every increasing prices vs £10 a day in an emergency (plus remember you’re saving the electricity cost as you’re not using it that day)…

£10 a day in an emergency

also the amount of compensation you’re eligible for if your leccy is cut off for an extended period of time due to a storm has massively increased recently IIRC – £85 after 48hrs, then an extra £40 for every further 6hrs (caps at £2k). Easily enough to cover the cost of gas bottles, etc.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/energy/energy-supply/problems-with-your-energy-supply/get-compensation-if-you-have-a-power-cut/

Meanwhile, a lot further south