Scammer on STW

Absolutely.

But that’s what he’s going to be doing isn’t it.

If he doesn’t have it to pay it back straight away, why would he do anything else ?

It’s easy money by the look of it.

Forget the refund. It looks like a scam, didn’t have the items to sell. You bought something that didn’t exist what makes you think he’ll return the money?

Add to that the lie about the mods and just head to the police. High volume, lost cost crime.

Has anyone actually contacted the police?

He refunded me instantly when he got caught. I think he’s 16 so just assumed he spent all the money he got and is waiting for his parents to bail him out. I was giving him until wednesday when he said people would be refunded by before things get nasty.

Update for anyone interested, an email I just recieved from Danny, not Jamie this time:

Ross, I have heard about what people are saying on STW can you make it clear that I am 100 percent paying the people back, I have listed items on auction and they end on wednesday, hense the date, that is how I’m receiving the funds to pay the people back. I can assure you I’m trying my best to get the money together and every penny of it will be paid, please pass this message on to reassure the buyers. Thanks again

I have listed items on auction and they end on wednesday, hense the date, that is how I’m receiving the funds to pay the people back. I can assure you I’m trying my best to get the money together and every penny of it will be paid, please pass this message on to reassure the buyers.

Be reassured “buyers”

Your money will be returned, once he’s had the time to scam some money off some other people for more stuff that doesn’t exist.

Happy days.

excuse me; but this guy is obviously back peddeling at aprox 90mph..hes telling you want you want to hear. point being the damage has been done ie ripped off those involved; the mods have stated no contact was made re any communication, the original intent was and is sraight up deception…if it hadnt have been noticed,,revealed by closer examination etc detection by ross i think then this guy would more than likey still be at it.As to whether he had anything fs originally its feasable that one transaction multipliied through intrest by several ppl and subject was selling in advance of re-stocking iether via ebay etc, as stated in feeble explanation awaiting end of auction to accumilate funds to reimburse violated parties.
In other words is there evidence to demonstrate that goods were falsley sold and if so then its a reportable offence. As for hanging abt and giving time to continue takin the p**s thats debatable, if it I had been scammed Id be lookin to reward him with a charge sheet on principle alone….anyway.

Thanks chunkyacid i will check that out re mechanic for new build.
caio yall

As I pointed out on page 1, he’s been at it for months.

Hi all, this just in from ‘danny’ ….”Hello Andy, refund has been given, please let the people on STW know as I am trying my very best to insure everyone gets every penny back, however there are some doubters, Sorry about any inconvenience.”

For me this curious episode is over as my refund has been given and confirmed. Email from ‘Danny’, refund from ‘Sean’. I sent him a strongly worded email this morning mentioning police involvement, seemed to help. Anyway, thanks Rosss for posting up in the first, and get it right up ye Sean/Danny/Jamie or whoever the **** you are!

Who’s money has he paid you back with though ??

Definately not mine I suspect!

[still being a bit dim]

Basically, he tried to sell items he didn’t own on here (and other places) and got caught doing it?

He’s now doing something similar on ebay to get more money to refund those he’s already ripped off before they call the cops?

He’s using at least 4 different online aliases to transact all this. Sometimes more than one with the same buyer/victim?

[/still being a bit dim]

Everyone seems to be taking the view ‘well as long as I get my money back that’s ok’.

I’d be waiting until I got a refund and then getting the police involved.

Actually, for the amount most people are out by I’d be calling the police anyway. He’s stolen from you, just giving it back and saying ‘Ooops, you caught me, sorry’ isn’t a punishment or an incentive not to do it again.

The more of you lot who report him the more likely it is that he’ll get a significant response from the authorities and realise he can’t do it again under a different name when the dust dies down.

If this was someone nicking bits off bikes in peoples garages there’d be a lynch mob heading his way. If he’s prepared to do what he has done there’s nothign to say the stuff he has managed to supply isn’t nicked.

Fair points well made however for me it was only about getting the funds back, Police involvement wasn’t going to be an option. I took a risk by buying something I hadn’t seen from someone I didn’t know from a web site and paying for it up front. Albeit you would like to think a site like this would be solely used by right minded honest people with similar interest this episode has clearly taught me that this is far from the case. So, with all the foregoing taken into consideration I must accept culpability for employing bad business practices, and it wont happen again, lesson learned. As for Police, you seem to think that reporting this idiot will automatically result in a sucessful prosecution, not so. Whilst this is,on the face of it, most definately a fraudulent scheme, they are notoriously difficult and complex cases to prove, multiple witnesses, bank mandate enquiries, cross border cooperation between different police forces, and in this case the Enlish law/Scots law awkwardness. Something else that I considered too is that, in the event of a presecution I dont want to spend god knows how many days sitting in the witness room of a court house at the other end of the country for the pricely sum of £18. That being said, I would still like to connect with his(Danny/Sean/Jamie) chin for exposing my nievity.

I also got stung by him last year when he was selling RaceFace bars cheap (too cheap). I did a lot of Googling and found an old add with his moblie number on More dirt, number was 077369 53183

I did much the same as exupmonkey, and Paypal was refunded in less than 24 hrs.

The list bellow is what I came up with linked to either Danny or Sean Madden :-

Jamie Reading
Norman Pierce
dhroberts on stw
Madden96 on moredirt
Madden-96 on Pinkbike
UK-Harvey1992
cheeseytoes on MLG (major league gaming )
dhjamie on stw
madden96 on stw
normanpiercemtb on Pinkbike
imadden on The Tech Game

I think he/they live in Liverpool, as I saw a picture on one of his posts with him and a few mates getting on a train at Liverpool, presumably heading for Llandegla, which he states as being one of his favourite places to ride. He is also linked to a beauty salon in Liverpool, which may be where a partner works. He has used the salon email/Paypal address on some items he sold.

Hope this lot helps anybody still waiting on either a refund or bits from this little scrote 😈

In typical STW fashion this thread has been all around the houses and back to the point.
Theft is theft – fraud is fraud; whilst accepting that some people are dishonest most are not. The honest folk on here and that is nearly everyone should pull together, it is not Rosss’ fault for sending funds PP gift it is the alleged thief for stealing the funds.
Without doubt the matter should be reported to Police, if they choose not to investigate then so be it, but these should be the actions of honest citizens. If in the fullness of time (unlikely I know) the Police/ CPS require witnesses to attend court that is your duty, in the same way that jury service is a duty.
The forum is a fantastic way of moving on unwanted items to someone who needs/ wants the said item. We should help by Policing our own forum as Rosss has; personally I also think we should all take the time to write on our sales/ purchases feedback – it only takes a moment.
I know I may be stating the obvious but a 100 frauds at £10 is a £1000 and to me that is a lot of money. Crooks should not be allowed to go unchallenged and the benefit of £XXX of honest STW members money.

Is he from Greece? Does he work for a bank? I’m sure this thread is a lesson on the vagaries of the financial markets.

Definitely report it. The more that do so, the more likely a plod will pay him (and/or his dad) a visit. And when someone gets stung again in 3 or 6 months time, he’ll have previous. Maybe he already has previous and is flogging off his PS2 games and bike bits while in a panic, hoping to fend off another trip down the station?

Thanks for all the input. It looks like some money is starting to be repaid and as I said eariler I want to make sure everyone gets their money back before the police make matters complicated and risk losing someones cash. I have strongly considered the police and will probably that it further in due course however I am only 18 myself and initially thought my word against a 16 year olds is going to be put down as a play ground fight and taken no further. Now I realise I support I have I think we should take this a step further, once everyone has recieved their money.

I realise he may be doing the same on eBay however I only started this thread to get the STW’er money back and keep STW as clean as possible. If he has done the same on other sites I expect the police or another Forum member from that site will do as I have.

serving police officers on here have posted saying it needs to be reported. 5 days into the thread, god knows how long since people were actually ripped off, and still no one has reported it to the police?

Ebay/gumtree frauds are rife and do get investigated, and its not THAT complicated (bare in mind it will sit with a busy response officer not a detective). Munqe Chick referred to an epic one where the offender just kept going as it was too easy and no one reported it- once caught he admitted to HUNDREDS of offences.

If he’s some chancing kid who’s never been in trouble then sitting in a bare cell and p1ssing into a steel bowl surrounded by shouting and screaming heroin addicts and drunks (and thats just the coppers, badum, tish 🙂 )might just help him re-evaluate his approach….

So often people complain on here about police inaction, now people are quite happy to sit back and wait for someone else to be ripped off so that they can get their money back? 🙄

…before the police make matters complicated and risk losing someones cash…

Never has something more arse about been written.

Where is he getting funds from to refund? Other mugs.

So long as it’s not you it’s OK? Suck it up and call plod. Otherwise it will go on.

If he came round your house and stole something then offered to return it when he can, you would still sit there and accept it? Mugs.

I wouldn’t care if he was 16 or 56, it is fraud, but some people seem to think it’s OK if you get your cash back…..eventually.

I’m with them ^ (still) get it reported.

He’s ripping other people off now to get you your money. Get it stopped.

Refund received this morning from the atlas bars i purchased but NEVER received, so thanks again Ross for the persistant approach in tracking the guy down 😉

Refund recieved this afternoon for me. Many thanks to you Rosss for your persistence.
This is the message I received.

Hello.

Refund sent.

Please post on STW to let people know I am sticking to my word.

Sorry about the Inconvenience and thank you for being patient as I got the funds together.

WHY ISN’T THIS PARASITE SCUM BEING REPORTED? YOU SHOULD ALL BE REPORTING HIM EN MASSE.

🙁

CALM DOWN!

NO

It looks like some money is starting to be repaid and as I said eariler I want to make sure everyone gets their money back before the police make matters complicated and risk losing someones cash.

Can’t believe you lot are happy to get your refunds off the back of some other mug getting conned.

Your almost (but obviously not quite) as bad as him to be honest, you know what he is doing but your not bothered as long as you get yours back.

Have you any proof that he is still doing it?

(Not saying he isn’t, just asking the question)

My view is why would he not?

He’s got away with it for so long and suddenly needs large amounts of cash to pay off some golf his victims.

He’s a criminal.

If he had the money he would have paid straight away.

If he didn’t have the money, why wouldn’t he just create another “persona” and get it the easy way.

He has been doing if for months and months, and getting away with it all over the place.

Why would be stop now ?

Hello, Neal, I would just like to ask you where is the proof that I have been doing “It” constantly for months, As you dont have none, if needed I can get my payment history up since we first met and I will happily post it here, within the last three months, I have took 20 payments overall, most going smoothly apart from the ones from this website, Most of them are from the last week, The way you are going on as if I have took payments from every single person in the planet. The problems with pinkbike were sorted, hence the reason I was unbanned, I was mixxed up with another person on the website, I dont have a clue who “Cheeseytoes” or “Harvey” are, however these are apparently me. You have no proof that I was going to take the money from these people, however you feel the need to post on here that I have been doing it for months on end. OK Fair enough the postage was delayed by like 4 days, But since this topic everyone automatically knows my whole life story. You dont know me, Nor do you no what I have done, So please stay out of this post as it only involves people who Have sent me payments, I understand if people want to contact the police, That is their decision, however the only thing I can do at this moment in time is what I am doing, Which is raising the money to pay these people back. And then you once again jump to conclusions that i am taking peoples money on different sites to raise the funds to pay the people back, ONCE AGAIN with no proof.

Did you advertise goods you didn’t have?

Why not just send them out rather than go through all this?

No I did not advertise goods I did not have, They were all on my Bike build that I could have sent you the link to before I got banned of Pinkbike, however the listing has now been deleted.

You may call me stubborn, but the lack of respect and the amount of abuse I received after so little time since the payment, and the amount of people who rushed to the conclusion that I was a “Scammer” from little previous evidence that they have only seen one side to. I did not want to send the item out, I didnt feel the need to prove myself to people who Judge people so quickly from what someone else says, even without evidence. Im trying to get this over with as quickly as possible. If I had the money to refund people straight away I would Honestly.

I have 3 People left to refund and 3 items sold waiting for payment from buyers on eBay.

I think the lady doth bold her type too much…

Hello, Neal, I would just like to ask you where is the proof that I have been doing “It” constantly for months, As you dont have none

Bollx.

You tried it on me 3 Months ago, sending emails from different addresses and using “other people’s” PayPal accounts etc.

Your full of shit and you have been caught out.

At least have the decency not to **** whine about it.

lol Neal, ^this^ is ace…your relentless reason has made this thread quite enjoyable…bombers at the ready for this scrote…hope you lot get this sorted…

btw it should be noted that receiving payment that may* have been acquired by theft/scam could be considered as receiving know stolen goods/money, and may also be a chargeable offense…

just an FYI…

I think the rate my brickie thread is better…

I never tried it on you, I refunded you as soon as you enquired? when If I set out to “Scam” then I would not have needed to refund you due to the fact you sent as a Gift.