- Road Tax for Bicycles
I was just looking to renew my “road tax” (Vehicle Excise Duty if you must) on my car and while I was wandering through the DirectGov road tax website I discovered that bicycles used for trade have to pay Â£66 tax.
This may be old news, but I’ve never spotted this before and a couple of things struck me:
a) Who checks if the bike is for trade?Posted 11 years ago
b) Do trade bicycles need to display tax discs in motorcycle-style holders?
c) why the hell is it cheaper to tax a (private) band B car or a 600cc motorcycle than it is a “trade” bicycle? I thought the alleged point of this tax was to encourage greener choices?!
if VED were proportional to road wear then 40 tonne wagons would pay Â£1000000 pa and bikes 10p
Actually you’re not far off, but then cars would get 10p too, as modern roads are designed and constructed considering only the HGV traffic they will encounter as car-caused damage is so minimal it’s considered unimportant.Posted 11 years agoStonerMember
ummm, as far as I cen tell reading around the acts the trade licence actually applies to the business user who repairs or trades cycles and needs to use the road to test them or deliver them…I think.
Perhaps an LBS with a trade licence could confirm?
I dont think it applies to say, the sandwich delivery company who use a bike to do their drop offs…Posted 11 years agocolandeMember
it’s vehicle tax,
road tax doesnt exist, everyone pays for the roads through their council tax it is the local authorities responsibility and they also get subsided by the treasury
so if like what happened to me some taxi driver shouting at you “get off the road! do you pay road tax!” then tell him where to go!!!
oh i also have a car so yeah i do pay “road tax” 😀
sorry a bit off the pointPosted 11 years ago
Indeed it must mean motorcycles, mopeds and scooters. I was confused as it refers earlier to “motorcycles” as a distinct group. I naturally assumed “bicycles” meant, well, bicycles – but I forget that HM Gov doesn’t speak the same language as the rest of us – particularly regarding tax.
Panic over. 😳
Thread may now devolve into a general slagging of VED.Posted 11 years agoStonerMember
GrahamS – Im pretty certain it does mean bicycles (bicycles are never motorcycles, they are one of the other). As I said, I think it refers to licencing the road user to use any bicycle that is part of the cycle trade business, not an individual bike.Posted 11 years agoBadgerMember
VED rates are now based on carbon dioxide output so I recently worked out the total CO2 output of cycling with a mate (biomedical scientist).
We worked out that your average person (average on the basis of weight and fitness as it relates to efficiency of muscles converting the food into energy) puts out between 1.5 and 3.0 grams of Carbon per Kilometer.
Compare that with the most efficient car on the road today which puts out 98g/km carbon.
Anything below 100g/km has a VED of Â£0!
So why not let cyclists pay Vehicle Excise Duty – I’d happily pay my Â£0 per year per bike!
;o)Posted 11 years agoaracerMember
Fairly sure you’re wrong, and it’s just dodgy wording, Stoner. After all if it does mean bicycles in the sense we mean, then where is the licence for motorbikes? Also fairly clear from the context that it’s a licence for a motor trader to allow him to take motorbikes on the road for test rides etc. when it’s not separately taxed (in the same way as he will have trade insurance), rather than something additional because it’s used for trade.Posted 11 years ago
It comes from carbon that is already part of the system
except that, with modern agriculture and transportation, every gramme of carbon in your food has many grammes of fossil fuel burnt to grow and deliver it to you 🙁 [unless grown on your own allotment and carried home on foot]Posted 11 years ago
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