[Closed] People that have to give you more info than needed.

People that have to give you more info than needed.

I'm starting to know what that feels like after reading that 😂

Unimog.

You know it makes sense.

Unlike the OP

I get that but I thought the background info was important 😉

Edit, PP, I have been here a while, I'm not after love but I know the background info will always be asked for, hence the ramble at the start, anyway love & peace to all.
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Still none the wiser.....

For the hard of thinking take my ramblings before the quote out of equation & go from there, or not, I'm passed caring.

Are you selling shoes?

If you are trying to sell him something in a medical capacity, you’re intimidated by the fact that someone else has a more important role in society than you?

OTOH if this was a non-medical scenario, the doctor is making a dick move?

Would U take a PlayStation in part ex and can you deliver?

I'm not selling shoes & it has nothing to do with anything medical, the bloke wants to buy a frigging car FFS.

Speak to your director?

Sorry OP, I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say. What's the context to that quote?

I am guessing he wants money off or to skip the wait.

The one I get all the time is "I'm an engineer, so I know how this works, but I want you to fix it...."

I have obviously not made it clear enough, I'm sorry for the failure.

Another common one is "my uncle's dad's mate's sister's dog's hamster used to work in a bike shop, can I get money off/skip the line/borrow tools"

WTF is this thread about? I spend a great deal of my time being confused, but this has taken it to a new level.

OP thinks we won’t like him based on his career choice. That means I’m a social awkward geek, into Star Wars and gaming. That’s what you think of me isn’t it? eh? turn it off and back on again! Bastards the lot of ya.

WTF is this thread about?

I think the OP is sharing an anecdote of a potential customer telling morally dubious lies in the hope it gives them a more favourable outcome in their prospective purchase? Also he is aware this is an inversion of the stereotypical trope of salespeople doing the same to drive a sale.

OP, just laugh and carry on as normal? 😀

It does irk me how sales people often like to ask me what I do quite early on. Probably just my paranoia And they’re just making conversation but I always feel like I’m being sized up...

LOL (really at the last few replies), but in all honesty it really boils down to the fact that covid has absolutely nothing to do with buying a car so why mention it? It was mentioned because he was looking for leverage or pity, it was never relevant & that was my point.

I think the OP is sharing an anecdote of a potential customer telling morally dubious lies in the hope it gives them a more favourable outcome in their prospective purchase? Also he is aware this is an inversion of the stereotypical trope of salespeople doing the same to drive a sale.

OP, just laugh and carry on as normal? 😀

It does irk me how sales people often like to ask me what I do quite early on. Probably just my paranoia And they’re just making conversation but I always feel like I’m being sized up

At last..

The title makes a lot of sense after reading the first post.

No idea what you are talking about or what responses you were expecting though

And they’re just making conversation but I always feel like I’m being sized up

They're NEVER just making conversations. They're ALWAYS making sales 😉

If he's a doctor then obviously he's loaded / doing alright for himself.
Bullshit gets you nowhere. I've worked in sales and always gave the best discount i could to the genuinely nice people.

Not sure I understand your point? If he's been working with Covid patients for 5 months then you should give him a massive discount, if your bullshit radar works as well as you say it does then tell him to **** off?

are you selling weerides?

I have obviously not made it clear enough, I’m sorry for the failure.

Let's hope you make anything you sell clearer otherwise it is not surprising you are getting frustrated by people buying from you.

I do feel your pain. We are not good at negotiating so just saying we find it a bit too pricey isn't enough. Would like to know better how to do it. Sales folks are much better at it as that is one of their skills.  I do always get amused by the fact that whatever I am buying happens to be what they have at home

Was looking at cars yesterday and the sales folks were rushed off their feet with people trying to catch up post lockdown. I'm guessing there isn't much scope for negotiation there 🙂

Edit: and your original post was very clear. It would wind me up hugely even though it shouldn't

You know they don't HAVE to do it. They're just trying to play your little sales game by appealing to your better nature. The same way you appeal to whatever you think will work.

The difference is you're mostly better at it than they are.

It does irk me how sales people often like to ask me what I do quite early on. Probably just my paranoia And they’re just making conversation but I always feel like I’m being sized up…

I get that. There Is a certain type of person who are definitely trying to gauge you success. i like offhand replies.

"What do you do?"
"As little as possible to still get paid"

"What kind of car do you drive"
"White one"

I do always get amused by the fact that whatever I am buying happens to be what they have at home

A regional sales manager of a company that used to supply an ex-employer of mine literally did have this. He figured out that he could just sign out one of everything as a "demonstrator" and if anyone asked questions, he would assign it to a different branch. Problem is, it was an engineering supply company, so he had enough welders, lathes, milling machines, etc. stuffed into his garage to equip a pretty decent workshop. Not sure if he actually had a plan to do anything with it, I suspect he just had a disorder and couldn't help himself, kinda like my stock of old 26" tyres and 9 speed drivetrains.

If he’s a doctor then obviously he’s loaded

I’m a doctor and have been for more than 10 years but still in training. I am definitely not ‘loaded’, and certainly don’t have extra cash to splash by accepting a bad deal on a car.

NHS discounts were pretty crazy towards the start of lockdown so maybe your punter thinks that applies to the car he wants to buy? Or maybe he’s just a nob? Maybe he’s not even a doctor?

kinda like my stock of old 26″ tyres and 9 speed drivetrains.

Stealth ad reported

Edit: although i have been nice doing shopping for my neighbours recently can I have a discount?

Can I have two please?

I'm Spartacus.

Does that mean I get a good deal?

People will feed you any old bollocks to try and get a better deal for themselves. Some of it’s true, some of it isn’t.

I’m a doctor and have been for more than 10 years but still in training. I am definitely not ‘loaded’, and certainly don’t have extra cash to splash by accepting a bad deal on a car.

And your point is caller? I think this is exactly what the OP is talking about, fair enough make the point about being a doctor in training and not being loaded but what does that have to do with bad deals, your status as a doctor is irrelevant, the guy that works in McDonald's also can not afford to waste money on a bad deal but probably doesn't bring up his employment status.

The whole discount for key workers thing was virtue signalling by businesses and left a lot of NHS workers quite uneasy but unfortunately it's given a few the belief that they stand above ordinary citizens outside of the medical world. Anyone who has worked through out this period has been helping the country, no good the NHS keeping people alive (and I do think they've done a good job despite the government) if there's no society / economy to come back to.

And on the same note those that have been sacrificed (lost jobs and businesses) to aid the lock down have been hut harder by this than many deemed 'key worker's.

OP, I think your customer has just awarded himself a 5% dick surcharge and no complimentary coffee.

I’m an important doctor on the front line working with the most infected covid cases

This is an easy one:

"Take this pack of dettol wipes, clean everything you've touched in here and sod off out of my showroom until COVID has gone away, oh and order me a test now you dangerous fool."

Did you appease the customer by showing them the secret bit of paper that you’re Definitely Not Allowed To Show Them to prove that you’re not making any money on the car? That ought to have sorted everything I think 😁

You know they don’t HAVE to do it. They’re just trying to play your little sales game by appealing to your better nature.

He works in Sales remember, they don't have a better nature.

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And yeah, despite the complete lack of irony awareness in the OP, I get where they're coming from.

It was the same when I did Tech Support for the great unwashed back in the 90s. People will come up with any hoary old reason why their case is far more important then everyone else's. You might be the most important person in your own little bubble, but a mid-20s nerd on a salary of £7.5k gives zero shits about any of that.

They were always the worst people to deal with too. Doctors, teachers, anyone used to being Big Dog in their own world, the "don't you know who I am?" brigade. When they're not in control they can't handle it and they really don't like having to follow instructions from someone else.

(I don't need to disclaimer that for the professionally offended, do I? I don't mean all doctors etc, just the ones that feel the need to tell you.)

OP was clearly on the sauce when he wibbled that.

But I think anyone in sales trying the line that customers are a bit ott in trying a line when everyone knows that people in sales can't help trying a line is, well, stepping over the line.

Does your average car salesman ever listen to another car salesman (when you are sitting at a desk trying to look busy or round the back scoffing a bag of crisps talking to the manager about what he might be able to do for a customer) and think - 'why yes, that condescending patter of total cliched bollox sounds mighty fine, incredibly original, and totally plausible. If I was sitting in the customer's chair, Dave would be getting a reach around right about now'

But I think anyone in sales trying the line that customers are a bit ott in trying a line when everyone knows that people in sales can’t help trying a line is, well, stepping over the line.

Its not stepping over a line its just a game to be played.  The op knows that.   Hes questioning the morals of the reasoning used to negotiate a discount.

The op needs to search out whether its real, or the guys a scumbag who doesnt deserve an empathetic discount.

The whole discount for key workers thing was virtue signalling by businesses and left a lot of NHS workers quite uneasy but unfortunately it’s given a few the belief that they stand above ordinary citizens outside of the medical world. Anyone who has worked through out this period has been helping the country, no good the NHS keeping people alive (and I do think they’ve done a good job despite the government) if there’s no society / economy to come back to.

And on the same note those that have been sacrificed (lost jobs and businesses) to aid the lock down have been hut harder by this than many deemed ‘key worker’s.

NHS workers in general are underpaid and unappreciated. Many keyworkers have been exposed to higher risks than fat IT managers bleating from behind a desk. Happy that they might get something more meaningful than the clap in return for their efforts.

NHS workers in general are underpaid and unappreciated. Many keyworkers have been exposed to higher risks than fat IT managers bleating from behind a desk. Happy that they might get something more meaningful than the clap in return for their efforts.

As long as the buyer is genuine which I’m not sure is the point of the OP’s first post?