- NS Rag+
Cost around 2k, but that’s with grabbing a few bargains, running Carbon force cranks and 1×11 rival drivetrain, rival brakes with XT 11-42 cassette, XT 140mm rotors, absolute black oval 38t ring, ritchey vantage 650b wheelset, with Specialised fast track tyres, salsa cowbell bars, Carbon post, weights around 19.5lbsPosted 7 months ago
We – pedals bike care – have frames on offer as well and can usually beat crc. We have a stock custom build very similar to the NS full bike @ £1750, but with nicer wheels. Can also go full custom obviously.
Also selling my light use ex demo medium full build for £950 to fund the purchase of a Rondo Ruut CF2.
Also see the Rondo Ruut AL on our site, these are expected 3 weeks ish and are a refined version of the RAG.Posted 7 months ago
Could anyone confirm a couple of things for me about this frame :Posted 7 months ago
How long is the head tube on large and does the fork have mudguard eyelets? On the latter, I’ve seen some photos showing them and some without so I’d be concerned of it was a case of depending on which fork came with the frame. Cheers
Not got a large here just now to measure but will try and post it later.
There are two fork versions, the full bike came with a wider fork that has stealth internal mudguard eyelets, these are the ones that don’t look like they have any.
The framesets come with a slightly slimmer fork where the hose guide tube exits internally so it looks neater, but means the mudguard mounts have to be traditionally positioned.Posted 7 months ago
The Ruut is a slightly tidier frame, some internal cable routing and nicer finishing. A lot comes down to if you prefer the brushed off red with pinkish details on the alu Ruut vs the stealthy black RAG. And if you want a frame only or not.
I am getting a Ruut because I want the carbon one :p
12mm front is the new road standard, NS kept the RAG 15mm so you can use your old mountain bike wheels as a spare set, perfect for all those narrow rimmed 2.1 27.5 XC race wheels that are only good for the bin otherwise 😆Posted 7 months ago
PigynPosted 7 months ago
That’s why I cannot understand kinesis’s theory here as there tripster is not a road bike and they are trying to sell it as a do it all, therefore they should have used 15mm front not only for 650b mtb wheels, but a lot of road wheel hubs are interchangeable to 15mm where mtb wheels are not to 12mm, anyway I think it’s kinesis’s loss and NS gain
I’m loving mine so far. Not had chance to take it properly off road yet, but it’s been a hoot on the short blasts I’ve had. Just bought some cowchippers to whack on it and may need a slightly longer stem. Front does seem quite low, but I’ve just come from a Trek Stache so it’s bound to seem that way.Posted 7 months ago
CRC have the frameset in (in some sizes) but not the complete bikes. I guess they have enough variety of brands in stock to not bother with this one – maybe it’s too niche for them?
They used to have the full bikes but I guess they are all sold out now (and superceded by the Ruut). Thanks for the CRC answer by the way – odd that the pictures definitely showed post mount!
Got mine all built up bar waiting for the flat mount adapters and longer bolts for the rear brake mounting! I went for the small, which interestingly has the cable routing underneath the down tube and chainstay (which makes for a bit of a tight loop to the derailleur).
Anyone know what the chunky black ‘nut’ is for? Oh, and what’s the point of including a chainstay protector that doesn’t fit the bike (cue Lizard Skin DPS bar tape off-cuts!) !?Posted 7 months ago
The large has the rear gear cable routing under the stay as well – generally it seems like there is some variation in the frames that isn’t shown in the photos. Not massively impressed with CRCs diligence in supplying accurate information on their products.
Not sure what the nut is – is it a spare fitting for where the rear axle screws into the dropout? Just need a headset and a bloody front flat mount adapter and I can start the build. I’m going to fit a black Easton stem that I have and also have some red bar tape spare that could look nifty… Or just go all black.
Those cowchipper bars look interesting, I tried some flared bars on an old Kaffenback I had and quite liked them. Maybe something for a future upgrade thoughPosted 7 months agothisisnotaspoonMember
Hmm… looks like a rigid
29er[b]650b[/b] with drops.
I mean, looks very cool an that, especially johnny RM’s build. But yeah, its a
29er[b]650b[/b] with drops really innit?
650b*2.2 or 700cx40.
I don’t really get the 650b road thing, but then I’ve never ridden one, I guess it must be a hoot on dry singletrack (compared to a CV tyre)? I think I’d rather a 29″ tyre to deal with lumpy/bumpy stuff better and accept that it won’t work so well for muddy CX.Posted 7 months ago
@Frogstomp – very nice. I like how you’ve gone full-brown with the matching saddle, I’m planning to be all black with some red trim… because those are the parts I’ve already got. Just got some flat mount Spyres and waiting for the headset then I’m ready to build.
yes, I guess it is basically an old-school MTB with drops in some respects, I’m sure its more capable than the rigid MTBs I rode back in the last century.Posted 7 months agoJoe wrote:
How much gnar do you have planned for this bike?
OK, probably not that much.. but definitely the odd local blue trail where a bit of space to move around would be useful! And kinda just because I could!
Oh, and I really fancied a Raleigh Stuntman which has a dropper.. but sadly not available over this side of the pond.Posted 6 months ago
something of a late reply Blunderbuss but I’m 5’10” and went for the large (55cm) since the reach and ETT matched by current frame closest. I still haven’t built the bike up – that’s been postponed to a Xmas project now.
I also wondered if the Rag+ was going to be shelved now that the NS guys have the Rondo Ruut but it seems its in the 2018 lineup with a new colour scheme
looks nicePosted 5 months ago
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