Thinking of a new road bike, have a £4k budget, give or take a few quid, so looking for opinions. Must be carbon frame, electronic gears (so realistically Ultegra Di2) and have disc brakes. A decent of wheels would help too. My options so far are Boardman SLR 9.6 Disc clicky
Sensa Giulia G3 clicky
Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8.0 Di2 clicky and Canyone Endurace CF SL8.0 Di2 clicky At the moment the 2 faves are the Boardman and the Canyon Endurace Anyone know of anything else out there that i should be considering?

Another from Merlin, LaPierre thing

Edit- if you aren’t too tall, Xs to med only

True to STW form of recommending what you own and being (slightly) over budget.

Focus Paralane 9.9

Mines last years so was cheaper but does without the carbon wheels.

For £500 more you could get 2018 TCR SL disc. I have the non-disc version and love it. More comfortable than my previous “endurance” bike and super light. Brilliant spec for the money.

https://www.devercycles.co.uk/5431/products/giant-tcr-advanced-sl-1-disc-2018–road-bike.aspx?currency=GBP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg5zauIC04AIVb5PtCh31tg0XEAQYASABEgLs9_D_BwE

I have the Ultimate in your link, but with the mechanical gearing. Absolutely love that bike – very comfortable for all day in the saddle rides and very fast as well.

Oh, and the blue is lovely. Proper headturner.

What sort of riding do you do? What do you want that any current road bike does not offer?

Canyon make great bikes, but there are plenty of options for your budget.

Personally, I’d avoid disks on a high-end road bike. Are you really going to ride it in awful weather?

You’ll be hard pressed to find a *bad* bike for that money, although you could easily find one that doesn’t fit you well or is inappropriate for you.

I honestly think that the fit of the bike will make more difference than the rest of the spec, so it’s worth budgeting for a decent bike fit. If you’re really lucky a good LBS can do the fit as part of the buying process.

If you’re going down the internet sales route, then it might be worth considering how easy it is to change components if you need to. I bought a canyon road bike a few years ago and it has a weird steerer diameter so it was hard to get a longer stem to try. I can only imagine that the integrated cockpits must be a nightmare to customise.

Personally, I’d avoid disks on a high-end road bike. Are you really going to ride it in awful weather?

It’s not just bad weather.

Carbon rims alone is a good reason to go with disks. Takes away the “slightly damp” carbon rim brake lottery.

Have carbon rims and calipers with Swiss stops currently. Demoing ultegras and their uniform power in all conditions and wheel materials sold me. Carbon wheels and ultegra disks due this week.

It’s not just bad weather.

Agreed. The primary reason I’d go for disc brakes is the space for tyre clearance. Even on a race bike.

Good point Stevous that was another plus point. 28c in an aero frame.

Have you got a road bike? Or have you tried various kinds? What kind of riding do you want it for?

As other have said, you’ll be unlucky to get a bad bike, but you might end up with one that doesn’t suit your riding style.

Currently have a Scott Foil i use for racing, and a Giant TCR Advanced SL, which is brilliant, and was my go to for general mooching around, but i wanted it replaced under warranty by Giant, they say no, so they can do one, i wont ever throw any money their way ever again. I want discs as it means no deformed carbon rims under heavy braking (been there, done that) and plenty of room for mudguards and fatter tyres in winter, i dont need extreme racing positioning (have the Foil for that), so its something reasonably nippy that wont shatter my spine to pieces, nice wheels, disc brakes are an absolute must, as is Di2, because thats what i want! Had a Canyon Ultimate CF SLX in the past, which was great, but i really like Boardmans too..again ive had one of them in the past as well, and it was cracking.

Quite like the look of that Focus, might to have a mooch down the road to Darlington Wheelbase for a closer look.

i wanted it replaced under warranty by Giant, they say no, so they can do one,

That’s unusual to hear about Giant, you usually only hear good things about their response to warranty claims. What was the problem?

disc brakes are an absolute must, as is Di2, because thats what i want!

I salute you sir. That’s all the reason anyone actually needs when choosing bikes or parts.

I’m treating myself when I get to my target weight loss so I’m a few months of buying, but I’m looking at Rose at the moment (although a lower budget than the OP).

This seems to fit your bill, if you can wait a month till they’re in stock:

https://www.evanscycles.com/bmc-roadmachine-02-one-2019-road-bike-EV338300

No experience of the other brands/models but I have just done a custom build on an Ultimate CF SL frameset and its a lovely bike.

Not sure there’s that much difference in geo to warrant going for a endurance over an Ultimate either – the ultimate is a very comfortable bike.

Sizing needs to be done carefully as they seem to be quite a compact bike with shorter seat tubes compared to other brands. I’m 5’9″ and I went for a size small which fits perfect.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtIkq2hF1lC/

How’s about a KTM Revelator Lisse Master Ultegra Di2, DT Swiss PR1600 Spline Disc wheels and will take 28mm tyres easily

That BMC looks nice, however i also refuse to give that fat pr1ck any of my money, so Evans are a big old no I’m afraid.

Just here to see if the OP will tell us why Giant aren’t bothered about keeping him happy

disc brakes are an absolute must, as is Di2, because thats what i want!

Great reason all by itself, but also Di2 is amazing. I recently got Ultegra Di2 on my new roadie (Parlee Altum, lovely but pricey) and spending the money on the upgrade over mechanical was money extremely well spent.

dont say that ….

i made concession to have mechanical ultegra to get carbon wheels and sneak in under budget on my new roadie 🙁

You stick to your guns OP, don’t let this lot tell you that you want the wrong thing.

Oh, apart from the person who recommended the Ultimate over the Endurace.

I’ve not ridden either but was recently studying road bike geo in depth for a potential insurance replacement and ended up rejecting the Ultimate as being a bit more relaxed than I was after. The Endurace was waaaaay too relaxed. I think it’d feel too ploddy and upright coming from your Foil.

To be honest, if I was in the OP’s position I’d be looking for something a bit different. Maybe a Jack Laverack or something of that ilk. Possible even a Mason Bokeh with an additional set of wheels for road use. The Jack is over budget, but I’d be more tempted to stretch to the additional money for something completely different than what I already have.
You already have a good racebike, not sure what another road bike will gain you. Don’t get me wrong, I get N+1, but as I’ve gotten older I’ve moved towards having something a bit different for my non race bike.
My race bike is a Canyon Aeroad and my second bike is a Trek Domane. I’ve decided I’m going to get rid of the Domane and get a Nukeproof Digger Pro, just to open up different avenues to explore. (I use my Domane for gravel and gentle CX type rides, but it only takes 33mm knobblies and I want something that fits wider rubber, as well as being able to swap wheels over and take 28mm slicks for group rides)
Moving from my Aeroad to my Domane feels fine to me. I moved from a Trek H1 fit Emonda SLR to the H2 fit Domane, again that felt fine. Its not quite as quick, but when I want a quick ride I use the Aeroad.

How’s about a KTM Revelator Lisse Master Ultegra Di2, DT Swiss PR1600 Spline Disc wheels and will take 28mm tyres easily

Ouch – not a looker is it! What’s with the hump back stem?

Oof, I’m not a fan of aero bikes’ styling generally but that one takes things up a notch.

Makes me think of this guy for some reason…

Ouch – not a looker is it! What’s with the hump back stem?

All the brake lines and gear wires are routed through the bars, into the stem, down the steerer and then through the frame and fork.

Full article explaining the routing is here

Full article explaining the routing is here

Thanks for the info – interesting idea but not ascetically achieved IMHO

Looks nicer than the propels way of doing it…..not that that influenced my decision either way.

Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8.0 Di2 clicky and Canyone Endurace CF SL8.0 Di2

I’ve got the Endurance and I kind of wished I’d gone for the Ultimate – don’t get me wrong, the Endurance is a lovely bike and I’m very happy with it, but it’s a bit “sit up and beg” with quite a high front end, and I often get the hankering for something a bit more racey… that said, I’m not the most flexible of people and the Endurance is probably the right bike for me 🙂

dont say that ….

i made concession to have mechanical ultegra to get carbon wheels and sneak in under budget on my new roadie 🙁

Ah well that’s the concession I made, got a set of alu DT Swiss wheels instead of shiny carbon ones that make that whoosh noise.