Well, ish.

The Mojo HD-R. Same geometry, pretty much the same weight. What’s “new” is that it’s 650 compatible if you swap the shock to make it 130mm travel – even though you could already fit 650s to the existing HD

Adn Orange got criticised for not innovating…..

http://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/mojo_hdr_0307/

That fits firmly in the evolution not revolution category.

if it aint broke,dont fix it…

A nice update of the HD though, addresses a lot of peoples complaints about the original, especially the iscg tabs.

Yeah – I hadn’t noticed the ISCG thing, that helps.

And it can be run with 650b in 150mm if you use the HD 160 setup and fit a travel limiter on the shock (same as the original HD).

I really do like the blue….

That blue is ghastly, so chuffed i got one of the last white ones in my size.

Is it actually a new frame? Or can you fit the existing frame with the different limbo chips to run the bigger wheels?

If so, in some ways it actually makes sense IMO, a shock & a set of wheels is a lot cheaper than a frame on top too, especially if your existing one is great anyway.

No, I think it’s all but identical apart form the ISCG bit and some slight weight savings. There might be slightly better mud clearance for 650 wheels, but I’m guessing, ‘cos no pics show it. You could fit 650 wheels to the old version, but you needed to limit travel in the same way.

All in all, it doesn’t really justify being tagged as a new bike, much less two new bikes. It’s a few minor running changes. But I’m tempted, I admit.

All in all, it doesn’t really justify being tagged as a new bike, much less two new bikes.

More than that it didn’t need the “IT’S COMING! 10/06/2013” hype that whipped up a micro frenzy on MTBR, people where trying to hack Ibis and everything lol

Microfrenzies are always good PR though

I don’t want to be one of those internet clever dicks who dismisses a bike on the basis of head angle, but isn’t 67.5 a bit on the steep side for a 160mm AM bike?

Genuinely wondering as I see a lot at Gravity Enduro races.

The frame is about .3lbs lighter and is a slightly different mould so you get the right clearance with a 650b x 2.35″ tyre for example.

The normal HD does not have this clearance.

If you would like more info or chat about it you can catch me at markdownie@2pure.co.uk

So how did your Mojo run in 650b mode Mark? Or should I just stick to rubber queen 2.4’s 🙂

It might handle differently – it’s not all about wheel sizes and angles.
The DW might be tweaked, it might be stiffer in different places, etc.
Don’t dismiss it as ‘the same bike’ without riding first.

If two similar steel hardtails can feel completely different, I don’t see why this can’t too.

It might handle differently – it’s not all about wheel sizes and angles.
The DW might be tweaked, it might be stiffer in different places, etc.
Don’t dismiss it as ‘the same bike’ without riding first.

If two similar steel hardtails can feel completely different, I don’t see why this can’t too.

Exactly.

I read that they’ve used different carbon layup techniques to alter the lateral stiffness/vertical compliance ratio.

Ibis Releases New Mojo HD-R