mrs xiphon and I hired a “Barracuda California” from the LBS – comfy to ride and had disks.
Would most likely get one like that in the future – we’re on a tandem, so unlikely to be going gnarrrr’Posted 5 years ago
Hi mate, I recently got an Orbit andromeda mtb tandem and all I can say is its quite a hoot. I would try and find yourself one that has full suspension. Remember the person on the back can’t respond to bumps in quite the same way a solo rider can. If you can’t find one at a reasonable price then getting something like a thudbuster on the back can be a suitable alternative.
Mine currently has shit forks/shocks/brakes and tyres. I have naerly all the bits I need to make it into a true offroad beast and I can’t wait.Posted 5 years ago
I’m thinking of getting a tandem which we can use offroad, nothing too extreme as my wife is a novice MTB’er. I don’t want to spend a fortune so was thinking of buying something like the Raleigh Pioneer to start.
Does anyone have any experience of the Raleigh and know if this is a relatively strong frame I can use and upgrade over time? I’m not too worried about the weight, I just don’t want to buy a frame which will crack or worse as soon as I give it any stress offroad.
I’ve already got a pair of suspension forks and some xt disc brakes I could use on the 1st upgrade.
I’d also be interested if anyone’s got a 2nd hand tandem for sale.
Any advise will be appreciatedPosted 5 years ago
I’m sure a full susser will be out of my budget, but good advise re the thudbuster. I was only thinking of spending £600 ish, mainly for a durable frame and basic bike I can upgrade with bits’n’pieces from my garage over time so the Raleigh and Barracuda kind of level look ideal.
Is that definitely the Raleigh in the pic? Looks very similar and if it can handle Glentress then I guess that answers my question 🙂
I did search the forum before posting but couldn’t find first hand experience of anyone riding the budget tandems offroad. I’ll search again.
CheersPosted 5 years ago
I think I took the same approach as you getting a semi-decent bike which was worth upgrading with mostly parts I already own. my big pitfall was I didn’t check what gears were on the bike so it has horrible gripshift + 8 speed rear. This means I’ve just bought 9 speed cassette + chain + 2 shifters which was more money than I really wanted to spend. Live and learn though.Posted 5 years ago
well, the Dawes Mountain tandem rides pretty well off-road. It is stable (with a sus fork) and has disc tabs (not the earlier versions) so can stop properly. Other than going mega bucks, it makes a great bike.
Can take a fairly big rear tyre, but it could do with more clearance TBH. Not a real show-stopper… but drops marks slightly here.Posted 5 years agotwiglet_monsterMember
That looks like it might be the quite lovely Rob and Sandra. Oh they are mad as well 🙂
If it is them then that’s not the Raleigh. Big fork, hydro discs etc
If you have any aspirations to do offroad things then avoid the cheap tandems. You don;t get much bang for your buck in the world of tandeming so a second hand machine would be ideal.
We started with a Dawes double edge, then graduated to a Landescape. Huge difference in comfort and control off road when you have big tubes designed for the task.
Cheap tandems are fine for the very occassional jaunt. Viking do one that’s super cheap that our friends ride.
enjoy – its great fun 🙂
RPosted 5 years ago
I’d appreciate if anyone can help me compile a list of the MTB tandems available to purchase new in the UK. Ignoring tourers and assuming a MTB tandem should have disc brakes and suspension or capable of having suspension fitted. The names and rough prices I’ve come across so far:
Make / Model : Approx £ (fully built)Posted 5 years ago
Viking ? : £?
Raleigh Pioneer : £600
Barracuda California : £650
Dawes Double Edge : £1400
Lapierre VTT : £2400
Co Motion Periscope : £5000
Ventana El Conquistador : £5000
Landescape ? : £?TandemJeremyMember
Cheap and offroad really does not go together. Off road tandems puts a lot of strain on components.
Try before you buy – if you are local to us you can try ours and spend as much as you can afford if you are going to enjoy riding one.
Wwe run a cannondale mt 800 with uprated components – hope 6 pots, zi fork , big un hubs etc etcPosted 5 years agoBeagleboySubscriber
I’ve got a 6yr old Raleigh Pioneer and I’d say it’s strong enough for Glentress duties. I upgraded the cable discs to hydraulic and the rigid fork to a Revelation, oh and it has a Thudbuster style seatpost for Mrs Beagleboy.
I’ve only been proper off-road on it a couple of times as this has generally ended with painfully bruised kidneys, so we tend to just stick to towpaths and country lanes now. However if your riding partner is more adventurous or packs a lighter right hook, you should get on Ok with it methinks.
If you live near Stirlingshire drop me a line and you can take it out for a test run.Posted 5 years agoHantsNightRiderMember
I have one of the early MTBTandem Fandango’s. I’m located Surry/hants, email me if you want to try it out.
We progressed to this after an old red Dawes Double Edge, which was sold on here many years ago, a few people on here have since owned it 🙂
Martin..Posted 5 years agobugpowderdustMember
Same as Hantsnightrider here, Fandango from Alex at mtbtandems.
Excellent advice, superb service and highly recommended though he does a 29er fandango these days. Proper nice bloke as we had dinner one night with him and his family when passing through Altanta a few years back. Definately worth emailing him to see what he can recommend or offer.Posted 5 years agotandemwarriorsMember
Sorry I’m a bit late on this one, but as the photo is of us at Glentress, then I’ll chip in!
@Twiglett-monster – Hi rich, long time no see, how’s the toaster? Well spotted, it is indeed us on our latest steed Nancy.
@xiphon, if you want to write offensive things about people you don’t know, prehaps think before pressing ‘enter’. If you’d rather take Sandys place then I’ll see you at Glencoe next weekend and you can ride the red DH route like we did this weekend.
As far as the bike, it’s not a Raleigh, its a Ventana El conquistador. It came from JD cycles after we’d tried their demo bike. Brilliant shop, brilliant people.
We do have our original cannondale frame for sale (looks similar to TJ’s) if you want to build one up.
The main problem you’ll find on the lower end frames (even the cannondales) is the bottom brackets are a normal solo bike height around 11-12 inches. When the going gets bumpy you’ll be grounding the boom tube & smacking your stokers toes onto rocks or upslopes. The off-road specific frames raise the BB to around 13-14 inches.
Cheers,Posted 5 years ago
Bit late to this one, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the Raleigh Pioneer that we got second hand (but hardly used). Decent frame, could plug a sus fork into it, has disc mounts, room for big tyres. The stock components are about what you’d expect but a few choice upgrades from the shed sorted that out. We use it mainly for ferrying children around but it’s fine on gentle off-road. Don’t know if I’d tackle the kinds of things Rob’s doing, but for the money I reckon it’s a great bet. There’s been a few on ebay for around £300 recently.Posted 5 years agoenveeteeMemberhighlandmanMember
Just acquired a Dawes Double Edge and now with a few hundred miles on it after a couple of weeks, have the following comments that I hope help.Posted 5 years ago
Great bike now that it has a decent handlebar and stem on, 710 dh bars and chunky stem make a huge difference to handling. So far, we’ve only used it for light trails, commuting and a tour with trailer, which it hauls absolutely fine. The slightly slow gear shifting requires a bit of communication to ‘back off’ the power, especially on up shifts.
I’m very happy with the original 2x cable discs and I’d be cagey about heat build up on long descents with hydraulics; more so on tours with the trailer. Tandemwarriors knows better than I do on this though.
The stock wheels are heavy but strong, which is the main thing. I know of a couple of these that have had big forks with 20mm maxles added and these ride really well on moderate singletrack where ground clearance hasn’t become an issue.
There’s a good margin on Dawes, so you may be able to secure a bit of discount on one, although supply of new ones is a bit erratic.
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