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  • Premier Icon Stoner
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    I reckon you’re taller than me (I’m 6’4″) and looking at that all I can think is cold and windy, noisy tyres, and Id need roller skates to stay comfortable 🙂

    far better, just like mine 😀

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-NC-700-X-A-C-2012-/391751354169?hash=item5b36334739:g:b5MAAOSw3utY7Egb

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    If you live in Mad Max world it’d be perfect. Otherwise the offroad tyres and general insanity of the thing might be a lttle wearysome. Wnat something fun and less lethal for a commute, like a 60-100hp mountian bike? Try a supermoto.

    My first bike was a KTM 950sm. Its meant to be a big nasty evil monster. Its actually a beautifully fuelled, well mannered pussycat that can easily snake through standing traffic.

    edit: Stoner’s honda NC idea is also awesome.

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    Stoner, I’ve been looking at the NC700 and the CB500X. They are the sensible opitions. This is what my heart wants I think… Always loved Z’s.

    I think I want to live in Mad Max world. That may be the problem…

    The tyres look offroad but I think they are Dual purpose- they are Continental Twinduro’s and meant to be OK on the road.

    I’m going to take a look I think. Can’t hurt!

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    Buy it, ride it for a few weeks & if you don’t like it sell it at the end of june when the sun comes out.

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    I’m going to take a look I think. Can’t hurt!

    you only came here for approval, not advice didnt you? 😉

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    I’m going to disagree 100% with them.

    Sure i agree with their comments… but hell, who cares. Cars are for quiet, refined, nice, economical.

    Motorbikes are for passion, pride, excitement and RAARRRRRRRR

    OK, so that bike for me in particular excites 0%… but if it excites you, then buy it !

    I used to commute on a Ducati 916, why, because i LOVED it !

    bazzer
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    Buy it ride it for fun, get sensible bike for commuting. N+1 applies to motorbikes too 🙂

    Premier Icon benp1
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    That bike looks like bloody good fun, go for it

    I have a vague notion of getting a bike a bit like that after my litre superbike itch is done with. Something slower and naked, maybe cafe racer ish. I love the way they look, my bike is only ever ridden for fun

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    In a way I really don’t want sensible…

    I’ve waited so long to get on a motorbike, I don’t really want to waste any time with the logical option.

    N+1 with motorbikes could get expensive very quickly!

    Premier Icon kayla1
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    Bloody hipsters. Putting shitty tyres on something and calling it a ‘scrambler’ doesn’t make it worth £1500 more than it’s actual value.

    Stick some proper tyres on it and it’d be fine, but not at £3500.

    bazzer
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    Yes it can, I picked up my 4th motorbike at the weekend 😉

    PeterPoddy
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    £3500 is a LOT of money for a bike that old, Zephyrs were old hat (but still in production) when I started riding 20 years ago. Personally I think they’re very pretty but I wouldn’t buy one now, certainly not for that much!
    That money gets something modern, still in production, and more usable. You’ll also get stuff like ABS. As a regular, high mileage rider I wouldn’t touch a bike without ABS these days.

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    For a first bike, would this be a stupid option?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZR750-Zephyr-custom-Brat-Tracker-Scrambler-12k-miles-more-pics-/201910128021?hash=item2f02c80d95:g:oOgAAOSw44BYUacu

    🙂

    Would be used on a 60 mile round trip commute, three days a week.

    Cheers all…

    Paul

    BillMC
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    I’d be wondering whether replacement forks and a tank respray meant it had been in a spill. For a 30 mile commute I’d want something with a fairing or at least a screen, weather coming straight at you can be brutal.

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    I could get a 2012 Street Triple on a Cat D for £300 less… lower miles, better colour, all repaired…

    bazzer
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    Street Triple is a brilliant bike. Great for beginners and experienced bikers alike 🙂

    I still miss mine !!

    Just for the record, my first ‘big’ bike once I passed my test was a Zephyr 550. 70’s technology engine, early 80’s technology brakes and they corrode so fast the engine looked like a ball of cotton wool if it rained.
    If I wanted a ‘naked Z alike bike’ now, I would get a proper old Z. They were state of the art in their day and built to last rather than a misty eyed nod knocked out on the cheap.

    Rockhopper
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    Good luck getting insurance on such a heavily modified bike as a first time rider!

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    So many different opinions…

    I found the Street Triple a bit small for me.

    I’m totally undecided.

    I know this one is overpriced, but I do like it.

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    Good point Rockhopper – not thought about that yet.

    I hadn’t really considered insurance.

    The insurance for my 125 was negligible. I ought to go get some quotes I guess.

    bazzer
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    Do you mean uncomfortable small or just felt a bit small ?

    I loved the fact it feels like a push bike with an engine, just feels like a toy but in a good way 🙂

    I am 5ft11 and I was fine on it. I sold mine to my mate and he is 6ft4 and gets on fine with it.

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    Just felt small. I’m 6ft 4 as well, but I didn’t like the riding position on the one I sat on. A little hunched. I prefer a little more upright.

    Of the bikes that I have sat on that I have found the most natural feeling are the Moto Guzzi V7, BMW R9T Pure, and the Honda CB500X

    I’ll be taking my test on a Suzuki SV650, and they feel OK too.

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    Did my test on my instructor’s SV650, hated the bastard thing! Swore to avoid v-twins ever since 😀

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    What didn’t you like about the SV Stoner?

    £200 for the insurance- no modifications though.

    Premier Icon mboy
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    Just picked up a 99 VFR800 last week, my first bike in 12 years. If I was commuting 30 miles each way every day to work and back, I wouldn’t want any less protection than the VFR has to offer from the elements, so to speak…

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    I bet he didn’t like the “3rd brake”. V-twins have loads of engine braking – in 32000 miles on my KTM I’ve been through one set of pads and a rear disc (not counting the front disc I wrote off after a misadventure with a German beer festival, a hangover and a disc lock). Rode a 1050 adventure recently which had a slipper to reduce the effect. If you’ve learnt on a V2 then you’ll not have noticed.

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    engine rattled like a bag of bolts. And not nearly as roomy a ride as you think. Although it did feel a smidge bigger then the other option which was the ER6 IIRC (that did ride a bit better though). Could have been due to being a leaner bike though of course. Much prefer a Honda engine though.

    bazzer
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    Fair enough on the Street Triple front. Shame as they really are a great bike. Would deffo show the other options you mention a clean pair of heels. I did euro tours and trackdays on mine it was great.

    Premier Icon iamtheresurrection
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    I’m all for not being sensible but that’s a 25 year old bike, and wasn’t particularly nice back then either.

    800 or so miles a month would be more than enough to rub away the novelty after a month or two at most in my opinion. Like others, the NC750/700X is a great proper bike, but the free revving nature of the CB500X would probably get my vote: it’s just a bit lighter and a bit more fun.

    £3,500 won’t have you far away from a CBR650F that was re-released in 2014. 4 cyclinders, a bit more power, decent fairing…

    Versys 650 are good too. Engine is a bit buzzy, but it’s a great bike.

    Premier Icon benp1
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    SV650s was my first bike, I liked it!

    Street Triple R was my next bike. What a wonderful toy that was, really amazing. Put over 13k miles on that in a couple of years and moved it on for my now Fireblade.

    I was quicker on my STR than my Fireblade on many roads, had an excellent riding position and plenty of grunt (though obvs nothing on a fireblade)

    I’m 6’3, found the STR comfy – comfier than the Fireblade

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    Tootall,

    How about a KTM 690, the insurance is buttons, the 690 single is a hoot and they’re comfy. Wind blast can be a pain compared to faired bikes I admit. But worth a look?

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    I know its a daft choice.

    In know something like the NC750 or CB500X would be the sensible route.

    Not a fan of the Supermoto KTM style.

    One choice comes from the head. One choice comes from the heart.

    This time I may just follow my heart. I’m 50 and I want something that makes me smile.

    I commute three days week at most (150 miles). If the weather is gopping, I can always take the train…

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    IMO anyway, it’s not a daft choice.

    3.5 for that, what an utter joke.

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    Find him a better example of what he wants then for less money?

    Just because we can’t grasp the prices, sometimes that’s simply how it is. I can’t grasp LCs being £7000+ but that doesn’t mean they’re not that price. Or the Ducati Sport Classic I sold for £4300 that’s now £10,000 etc

    Premier Icon tootallpaul
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    3500 is high, as I said. It’s not crazy though.

    Good examples are fetching 2500 – 3000.

    With the quality of the work that’s been completed on this one, the price doesn’t seem that bad.

    Look at custom BMW R80’s. Now there is silly money.

    For example…

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-R80-custom-cafe-racer-brat-racer-tracker-/332188407196?hash=item4d57f8d59c:g:I5sAAOSwIWVY-N29

    A friend of mine had a old R80 that he sold for 2500. It wasn’t even working…

    Premier Icon mugsys_m8
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    It’s a weird thing: the bike doesn’t suit what’s been done to it: it’s an in-line 4 trying to look like what would typically be a twin or at a push a single.

    If the street triple feels too small, the SV650 will also feel too small I reckon.

    If that’s the style of bike you like the idea of crusing around on, have you looked at the Triumph Scramblers? or how about the bonneville? or maybe the W650 etc etc. Isn’t the Ducati scramble quite well regarded as well?

    Weeksy: I too can’t get over LC prices. My dad bought his for £895 in 1993 and I used to ride it…even sneaking it out during lunch-time at college…..

    Next thing I know is my MZ 250 will be the bike to have and it’ll be worht a fortune!!!!

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    This looks ‘interesting’.
    Gold Wing Custom.

    Leaves you a couple of grand to fix it. 🙂

    Next thing I know is my MZ 250 will be the bike to have and it’ll be worht a fortune!!!!

    Which model?
    I bloody love MZ’s.

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