More Lake District bridleway sanitisation?
I was up there yesterday and yes it is (mostly) true.
From the top down to the first gate on the Longsleddale side, by what was the rockiest part is now just a muddy track. The Kentmere side is fine.
I got the impression though that there’s a lot more to be done as it certainly didn’t look anywhere near suitably finished, it literally was about 6in of mud all the way with nothing to give it any structure or support.Posted 5 years agoVinteMember
I was hoping that it wasn’t true. I know it’s not the best downhill (or uphill DBW!) in the area but it was quite a good challenge. I rode it a few months ago with a mountain bike newbie; he didn’t quite make the bedrock section but was determined to do it next time. Not going to happen now! I wonder how many other bridleways around there are going to go the same way.Posted 5 years agoSannySubscriber
I wouldn’t worry. I remember seeing the postings about the improvements to Parkamoor a while back. I rode it again back in December and you wouldn’t know they’d ever been there. Fortunately, the Lakes rainfall ensures that any improvements are soon washed away! 😀
Talking of such things, how is Walna Scar these days? I would imagine that the winter weather is already making its presence felt.Posted 5 years agothisisnotaspoonMember
Councils want to go down to collecting rubbish every 2 weeks, yet there is money to resurface bridleways.
If they don’t spend every last penny then next years budget is this years spending +y (where y is the % increace). They might both be getting cuts, but if the budget for next year is this years – x then it still needs to be as big as possible this year.
This is why they like privatisation, prevents stupid projects and waste as the money spent on stupid stuff like this stops being a budgeting game and comes out of the private company’s profit. But profit is baaddddddddddd mmmmkayyyyyyyyyyyy?Posted 5 years agomrlebowskiMember
Thing is this though, it doesnt often take long before the trail degrades again. So maybe after a winter or 2 it will start to cut up & revert to a less sanitised state (although it may never quite go back to how it was.)
I say this with a degree of confidence as last winter or perhaps the winter before parts of The Gap descent in the Brecon Beacons was sanitised in parts but now you’d hardly know.Posted 5 years agoir_banditoSubscriber
So why’s it been done?
Who has the idea? How do they propose it to the council/Park authority? How do the council decide what to do?Posted 5 years ago
I presume there’s some sort of planning meeting, can the members of the public hear about them, and attend, even influence, decisions?bajsyckelMember
Yay they’ve made it worse for everyone!
Yup, it looks pretty crap indeed. Even the walkers in the pic don’t want to use it. That being so I can’t imagine this is the finished state – probably just a pause in the works being carried out before the final phase of hardening the surface.
So why’s it been done?
Well I can’t speak for Cumbria CC – if they are behind the work, which is almost certainly the case. But like most authorities, the ROW dept will have a schedule of works to be carried out and will be able to explain if you give them a call. IIRC the track might actually be a byway rather than bridleway – and this legal status might be part of the reasoning. Work like this seems often to be done to what is termed “best practice” – based on ROW requirements and recommended specifications from groups like IMBA, ramblers and the BHS (horse society). Unfortunately ‘best practice’ often ends up with the most easily imported solution for the budget available – and even if understandable financially, predictably mediocre/ generic results.
I presume there’s some sort of planning meeting, can the members of the public hear about them, and attend, even influence, decisions?
Well, most county councils have systems of local access forums, ROW liaison groups etc. I believe Cumbria has 2 access forums – one for the National Park and one for the rest of the county. They are obliged to respond to the public, and I believe meetings are open to the public. Someone on these would surely be a useful port of call to find out more. As for influencing ROW decisions, well, I wouldn’t hold your breath – but it might help to work out what is going on in the first place.Posted 5 years ago
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