- LT Hardtail Fork choice?
I guess what I really want to know is, how important is fork stiffness on a hardtail? I’ve never ridden anything stiffer than my old Revs, but that was in combination with my Cotic Soul, which I could really feel flexing under me. I know I want a stiffer setup in this next bike, but what price do I want to pay for it in terms of weight?
Slants look like a good compromise and its good to hear that a “sturdy chap” is getting on well with them so thanks for that meatfist.Posted 4 years ago
Considering a number of forks for my MK3 Alpine build and I’m really struggling to make a decision!
On the table and in no particular order are:
X Fusion Slant (160 – non DLA)
Solo Air Lyrik (DPA)
or even just an RCT3 Rev.
My current bike is a Soul, but I need something tougher and I think I want a fork to match, though part of me still wonders whether the Rev would still be fine for me and save me a chunk of weight.
X Fusion looks good, but the damping adjustment is akin to an RLT Rev, which is the fork I had on the Soul and it always left me in want of some low speed compression adjustment to get rid of the brake dive (I’m 90-95kg kitted up).
The pike looks good on paper and has great reviews but is expensive, hard to find at the moment and (shock horror) I don’t like the look of it.
The Lyrik seems great on paper but is heavy.
Any help greatly appreciated!Posted 4 years agoCalamity JamesMember
Watching this post with interest…
I have just swapped from a Soul to a BFe. Had 140 Floats on the Soul as it was my do-it-all bike and I found them fine, at 90kg there was some flex as expected in both forks and frame but never really found it a big issue.
Much like the Alpine, The BFe is a different animal and far stiffer. Fork flex is even more noticable now but I can’t afford new forks for the while so will persevere. Definitely needs stiffer forks and for half a pound weight gain is worthwhile if you are hard/heavy and pushing the bike’s limits.Posted 4 years ago
I guess what I really want to know is, how important is fork stiffness on a hardtail?
I had Fox 32s on my Alpine initially. It felt odd (not in a good way) on harder, faster tracks (Ft Bill was the place where I first noticed it as an issue).
Took some advice, swapped the 32s for some Lyriks and the difference is night and day. That said, it’s more to get up hill now… 😉Posted 4 years ago
I’ve got the U-tun coils with the mission control hack thing.
I’ve not tried the Slants or the new Pikes so my opinion probably isn’t much use! 🙂
That said, much of it will come down to what you ride and how you ride it. Something like a Lyrik is overkill for general pootling duties, but at 90kg, if you tend to ride rough stuff fairly quickly, i’d imagine a stiffer fork would serve you well.
Also, not sure how relevant this is for you, but another plus of the RS options is that mere humans can service them (not so easy with Fox!).Posted 4 years ago
another plus of the RS options is that mere humans can service them (not so easy with Fox!).
That’s one of the main reasons Fox didn’t make the list!
but at 90kg, if you tend to ride rough stuff fairly quickly, i’d imagine a stiffer fork would serve you well
I think I have now crossed the Rev off the list, at least in my mind.Posted 4 years ago
dare I suggest a pair of Bos Devilles? I’m in the same dituation as you and i’m going for them because on a hardtail the wallowyness of other forks becomes more noticable for out of the saddle efforts/weighting the front (imho etc.). Second hand you cab pick up a pair 🙂Posted 4 years ago
on a hardtail the wallowyness of other forks becomes more noticable for out of the saddle efforts/weighting the front (imho etc.)
I think I agree with you, which is what is giving me concerns about going for the Slants without any compression adjustment.
EDIT: Not sure I want to open the Bos can of worms, especially on 2nd hand forks and couldn’t justify them new.Posted 4 years ago
I’m still in 2 minds as to whether I want travel adjust. Most the above forks in travel adjust format are 160-130mm. I’m not sure I’d really need 160 most of the time and might be better off just getting some internally adjustable forks and running them at 130/140 in the UK and 150/160 in Europe or on lairy uplift days.Posted 4 years ago
Hmm, know what you mean about the can of worms! I suppose if you could pick them up second hand via a bike shop you’d have more piece of mind!
As for travel adjust – theoretically a great idea, and indeed some people love them.. buuut, if your frame is designed for 160mm as an ‘enduro hardtail’ it will be designed with those angles to go uphill/across as well as down 🙂 Of course the best situation to be in would be to ask around locally who has x-length of forks and take them for a bashing cross country and see if it bothers you?Posted 4 years ago
That’s the nice thing about the Slant, I can try them at various lengths and get a feel for what I like best.
I think I might be leaning towards the slants. They save over 3/4 lb over a DPA Lyrik and I’ve read good things in a number of places about them riding high in their travel with limited brake dive. Maybe I can do without LSC adjustment and save myself a fair old wedge of cash….Posted 4 years agoeulachMember
Designed to accommodate a 120-160mm travel suspension fork
I was never sure if that meant a fork with fixed travel anywhere between the two figures or a fork that could be adjusted between them. If I remember correctly the Mk 2 description stated 115-160, which kind of indicates it was designed around a lyrik uturn. I might be wrong though…Posted 4 years agotymbianMember
I have Marzocchi 55 Bombers on my BFe,They have been converted to coil, have a 20mm through axle and I keep them at 160mm. I love them ( point and shoot control ) but Hate, really hate… the 2.7Kgs ( over 6lbs ) that they weigh. I’d love to change them for, say a Revelation or similar that weighs 1.7 kgs ( saving over 2 lb. at the front ) but I’d also hate to end up with a flexy, wallowy front end..
..I can’t afford BOS either..
It’s all about comprimises..price v weight v performance.Posted 4 years agotrickydiscoMember
Took some advice, swapped the 32s for some Lyriks and the difference is night and day. That said, it’s more to get up hill now…
Just done exactly this. Had 32 talas forks on my stanton slackline.. just bought some lyrik coil u turns off bungaltistic
Yet to try them but hated the flexy 32’s at 150
Posted 4 years ago
I decided to take a gamble and go with the non dla Slant. Fingers crossed the mid valve does a decent enough job of warding off brake dive. The stout options with more tunable damping are all a good deal heavier (with the exception of the Pike) and I think that would wear thin after a while for the type of riding I do most of the time.
I think I now have everything ordered for my new build ❓ Touch wood.Posted 4 years ago
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