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Offline  wwaswas
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Town near me has had 5 cars stolen this morning whilst sat with their engines running to defrost and with the owners back in their houses.

Pretty sure most insurance specifically excludes vehicle theft under these circumstances so an expensive mistake.

I have done this a few times (I'm not a regular early morning car user) - I probably won't now...

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:19 am
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It's also not very good for your car.

Warm water from tap in kettle, pour on windscreen/windows/lights, return kettle, get in car, start engine, go. Doddle.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:21 am
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Can they not be locked with spare keys?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:22 am
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Illegal too isn't it?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:22 am
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I am not into victim blaming but its very foolish to do this

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:23 am
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Boiling waters great for ice but doesn't demist it.....

How ever why would you not lock the car while running and your not there......

Having ancient 8v diesels I don't leave mine running as it would be antisocial 🙂

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:25 am
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Windscreen covers are a few quid. Just put it on when its cold. Takes 30 seconds.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:25 am
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Open garage door.
Drive car out.
Close garage door.
Doddle.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:26 am
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[i]Can they not be locked with spare keys? [/i]

People think: "I live in a suburban cul-de-sac, there's no crime round here, the car's on the drive, it's only for 5 minutes while I finish getting the kids ready for school, I can't be arsed with all that scraping, no idea where the spare key is" and then it's not a problem. Until it is.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:27 am
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Boiling waters great for ice but doesn't demist it.....

It does if you pour it steadily from the top, cos it heats the windscreen just enough. Actually, thinking about it, I start the engine/demisters (so they're blowing for a couple of minutes before I drive off), pour water, return kettle, leave. Works for me.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:28 am
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"Doing a frosty" as it's known by Glasgow car thieves.

My routine on cold mornings is as I'm taking the dog out I run an extension cable from the shed to the car, plug in fan heater, walk dog, have coffee, then car is warmed up and good to go.

Victim blaming? In this case I do blame them. After all it's even worse than leaving the car unlocked with the keys in the ignition. You are signalling that your car is sitting waiting to be stolen.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:28 am
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My solution is for Ford to let their patent lapse on heated front windows*. I've only ever owned one Ford and this is most definitely something I miss. It was awesome at quickly clearing the window on a cold and frosty morning.

*I don't know if they have a patent or not, but it has always baffled me why no other brands (that I'm aware of) offer this.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:29 am
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[i]I start the engine/demisters (so they're blowing for a couple of minutes before I drive off), pour water, return kettle, leave.[/i]

the 'return kettle' bit is probably all it takes for someone to be away with your car...

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:30 am
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Very antisocial thing to do imo. It's horrible walking kids to school past cars 'warming up' . Just scrape the thing, get in and go.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:30 am
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guy across the road drives a big yellow AA Van - it has some internal noisy warming device that he appears to operate from inside the house and leave chundering away for half an hour most mornings.... Not quite as noisy as the rattly diesel, but not far off...

Thankfully he is moving house imminently 🙂

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:30 am
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Boiling waters great for ice
Use warm rather than boiling or you risk cracking it. Housemate did it to his using a freshly boiled kettle full.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:31 am
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Think of it as a stupidity tax

I've discovered a couple of revolutionary new products. Its a pity they're not so readily available. If only they were then this kind of thing could be prevented....

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Posted : 06/01/2017 10:32 am
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Open garage door.
Drive car out.
Close garage door.
Doddle.

Perchy outs himself as a pensioner....

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:35 am
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[i]Perchy outs himself as a pensioner.... [/i]

Only if there's a car port/lean to with a clear plastic corrugated roof attached to the side of his house too.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:37 am
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Or, another tip I learned from someone off here*: stick a hot water bottle on the dashboard while you have breakfast.

*who learnt it from his gran, who learnt it from her gran before her etc.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:37 am
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Old towel to cover windscreen and side windows. Peel off, place in bag & hide behind the gate. Drive off. Done.

Repeat and once frost stops, throw the towels away or wash and use for garage duties.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:38 am
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Start car with all heating gubbins on, spray de icer in ice, scrape off ice with suitable tool. Get back in car and drive off.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:38 am
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keyless car. I can start car and keep key in pocket, go back in house. Cant drive car away unless key is in the passenger compartment, does not work if key in boot.

witchcraft I tell theee

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:38 am
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My solution is for Ford to let their patent lapse on heated front windows*. I've only ever owned one Ford and this is most definitely something I miss

However good it is, I still have to scrape side windows. 🙁
I start, scrape and stay with car(s) as they start on cold morning - and then sit in the thing if it is a cold one and I cannot see.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:39 am
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However good it is, I still have to scrape side windows.

Indeed, but overall it's considerably quicker and easier in my experience. It also helps with de-misting the inside of the front window = less sitting around in a cold car waiting to be able to see.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:41 am
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I start, scrape and stay with car(s) as they start on cold morning - and then sit in the thing if it is a cold one and I cannot see.

+1. I do have the keyless option to start, lock and go back inside, but as others have said, it fills the air with fumes, particularly on a still frosty morning in our modern cul de sac 🙁

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:41 am
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I too read that it's illegal.

But my new(ish) car can be started remotely, via an app on the phone. Can set the time for warm up. Car starts itself, remains locked. Windows and mirrors clear, seats warm up.

For this time of year it's a great feature.

Oh yes...it's a Volvo - those swedes know a thing or two about cold weather 🙂

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:42 am
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My solution is for Ford to let their patent lapse on heated front windows*. I've only ever owned one Ford and this is most definitely something I miss. It was awesome at quickly clearing the window on a cold and frosty morning.

*I don't know if they have a patent or not, but it has always baffled me why no other brands (that I'm aware of) offer this.

Patent ran out a few years back new VWs can come with a quickclear screen

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:43 am
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For a while I was using one of those plastic store discount cards to scrape the windscreen. Trouble is I only got 10% off.

BTW,I had German-grown brussels sprouts with my Christmas lunch – they lied about those emissions too!

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:44 am
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I just love it when people pour water over their windscreens, which then freezes on the pavement or road...

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:44 am
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I thought you only needed to clear a tank commander slit in front of the driver's eyes?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:44 am
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I think I bought a scraper in the 90's and I'm still using it. (less and less each year it seems)

It takes maybe 2 minutes?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:45 am
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it fills the air with fumes

Surely it still does that when you

start, scrape and stay with car(s) as they start on cold morning - and then sit in the thing if it is a cold one and I cannot see.
???

Two separate issues here:

1. Have we got sympathy for people whose cars get nicked when they leave them with the engine running? (for the record, I do).

2. How best to de-ice and de-mist a car on a cold morning?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:45 am
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But my new(ish) car can be started remotely, via an app on the phone. Can set the time for warm up. Car starts itself, remains locked. Windows and mirrors clear, seats warm up.

so what happens if you have left it in gear ?

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:46 am
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A bit of pre-planning helps. If you know it's going to freeze overnight then turn on the windscreen wipers and when they are at some suitably jaunty angle turn off the ignition. Now put some newspaper over the windscreen using the wipers to hold it in place. Not brilliant if the windscreen is damp at the time though.

Other than that: warm water from the tap is most effective. I like the hot water bottle idea.

Leaving a vehicle unattended with the engine running on a public highway is, if not illegal, then stupid. Dead easy for someone to jump in and drive off. Maybe the OP could do that and just park the car round the corner - at least it would impress on the idiots that they are being idiots.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:47 am
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For a while I was using one of those plastic store discount cards to scrape the windscreen. Trouble is I only got 10% off.

Well I appreciated it, even if no-one else did.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:48 am
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it fills the air with fumes

Surely it still does that when you

start, scrape and stay with car(s) as they start on cold morning - and then sit in the thing if it is a cold one and I cannot see.


???

yes, however I drive away as soon as it is safe to do so. The option of leaving it seems for most neighbours to be a 10 minute average process, so lots more fumes...

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:48 am
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The ford screen is the best invention ever.
Not only gets rid of ice but the fog inside.
You can point vents to defrost side windows.
I walk the 3 miles to work so I don't really care anyway!

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:49 am
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Don't leave in gear - it's an auto - in park mode

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:50 am
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Perchy outs himself as a pensioner....

Perchy outs himself as having a two garages both big enough to be used for their intended purpose.

Nothing make me chuckle more than driving round a new build estate where every house has an integral "garage" which, even if it hadn't been poorly converted to a "playroom", is so full of stuff that you couldn't put a car in it if you tried.
If you did actually try you'd be hugely disappointed to discover that the internal dimensions would only allow you to store a 1978 Mini in it and even then you'd need to climb out of the window.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:50 am
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If you scrape the ice off the windscreen, the worst thing you can do is then operate the wipers because they will just smear ice back across the screen. By the time you've scraped, the inside will be demisting and you should be OK to go. You just need to stay away from the wiper stalk until the screen has warmed up enough to prevent re-icing.

My old Passat B7 had a heated screen but the new B8 doesn't because I had a job wangling DSG from my employer and had to sacrifice the Winter Pack option to get it. Bums.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:51 am
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De-icing takes a minute or two. De-misting can take a whole lot longer, especially if it's been snowing recently and the inside of the car is (despite your best efforts) damp. It's been suggested that a sick filled with cat litter would help dry the car out.

And it's illegal to leave a car running unattended on a public highway.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:51 am
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This thread is making me want to trade in my car for another Ford.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:52 am
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I have a Nissan Leaf electric car, bought about six weeks ago.

You can warm the car up remotely, defrost front and rear windows, heat the seats, heat the steering wheel, ac on.

Really good feature, then just jump in and rive away in defrosted car all warm, nice.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:53 am
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[i] then just jump in and [s]rive away[/s] find you've flattened the battery in defrosted car all warm, nice[/i]

ftfy 😉

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:54 am
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Ad it's illegal to leave a car running unattended on a public highway.

I'm going to say stealing a car is illegaler

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:55 am
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De-icing takes a minute or two. De-misting can take a whole lot longer, especially if it's been snowing recently and the inside of the car is (despite your best efforts) damp. It's been suggested that a sick filled with cat litter would help dry the car out.

Agreed you often see people driving around with their windows misted up or even wet inside because they don't understand how to use the heating and ventilation. The fan should be permanently on 1 so as to push fresh dry air into the car; I once got a freezing cold ride with a University professor who didn't understand this and kept leaning forward to clear a hole with his driving glove. Idiot.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:57 am
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Can they not be locked with spare keys?

The i40 I had couldn't - it wouldn't let you lock the car from outside if it detected a key inside.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 10:58 am
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Open garage door.
Drive car out.
Close garage door.
Turn around to find car has been pinched while I was closing the garage door
[s]Doddle[/s]
Crap 🙁

Heated screens defo FTW.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 11:00 am
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@nickc - you aren't stealing it, merely "relocating" it. Stealing is technically "taking property with intent to deprive ownership". OK, you might be doing that but in this instance we are discussing handing a lesson to those who break rule #1.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 11:01 am
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It's horrible walking kids to school past cars 'warming up'

Well you should drive them, like a proper parent. What are you, some sort of communist?

Doesn't take long to scrape a car, not sure why that's a big fuss. Demisting can be a pain especially for a mountain biking car that's always getting filled with mud and wet, I got 2 of those big dehumidifyer bag things and they get rotated in and out every couple fo days, that made it a lot better.

 
Posted : 06/01/2017 11:02 am
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