Jeremy Corbyn

Apparently, he’s just lost the support of “500 councillors”

Perhaps he should execute deed poll and change his name to “Aunt Sally”…

Rabbi….I meant rabbi.

oy vey.

5thElefant – Member
No normal person would depict Israel and IS as equivalents at a meeting about anti-semitism.

Absolutely. The Israeli govt is far more efficient at killing women and children. Definitely no comparison.

Absolutely. The Israeli govt is far more efficient at killing women and children. Definitely no comparison

Would you say that at a labour and anti-semitism press conference? Just to diffuse things a bit…

Jez is like one of them floaters that just won’t flush…….his “I have the full support of the party membership” is starting to grate as bad as some tw**s “take back control”. Oh, and Jez, you don’t have the full support of the party membership old chap.

Eagle will spread her wings tomorrow, so back to normal

With no journos (or very few) old Jezza had time to trim the bushes roses outside his house for a change before it gets busy again

Jez is like one of them floaters that just won’t flush…….his “I have the full support of the party membership” is starting to grate as bad as some tw**s “take back control”. Oh, and Jez, you don’t have the full support of the party membership old chap.

Despite the full on media campaign to get rid of him, he still does seem to have the support of an awful lot of party members, probably enough to win another leadership election.

Thats what the PLP are scared of….

5thElefant – Member
“Absolutely. The Israeli govt is far more efficient at killing women and children. Definitely no comparison”

Would you say that at a labour and anti-semitism press conference? Just to diffuse things a bit…

I share Corbyn’s gift of tact, so no problem… 🙂

No normal person would depict Israel and IS as equivalents at a meeting about anti-semitism.

Are some people really this stupid that they think this is what he did?

The chief rabbi thought he did.

Is he omnipotent?

HE is entitled to an opinion I am entitled to think he is a bit desperate to be offended/ hard of thinking on this issue

“demonisation of the highest order, an outrage and unacceptable”.

He is a bit irrational

When later asked if he was comparing Israel to a terrorist group, Mr Corbyn said: “No, no of course I’m not.

You really have to be a bit dim to think otherwise tbh

Its not that hard and tbh WHY HAS NO ONE ACCUSED HIM OF ISLAMPHOBIA ?

he basically said the same things about Muslims
Perhaps muslims might be a bit brighter and able to deal with simple sentences, even when fasting?

Supposedly Momentum said if there is a challenge they will recruit another 100,000 £3-ers. How wrote these rules, you can join for £3 and be elligable to vote immediately that’s total madness.

Meanwhile the hate stirred up by Vote Leave actually got Jo Cox killed …..

How wrote these rules, you can join for £3 and be elligable to vote immediately that’s total madness.

Are you really criticising a Jewish person? Now what do you call it when someone does this ? If you deny this then you are part of the problem just admit etc

Turns out his press officer is now releasing statements with Corbyn’s name spelt wrongly. Shambles.

It seems apparent that the fruit loops of Momentum are going to march to another victory for Jeremy in any leadership contest. I’m sure that all UK marginal voters will see this small cabal of hard left cult members hijack a democratic process to serve their own bonkers agenda, and think ‘they look like a great bunch. I must rush out and vote for them at the general election!

Jeremy’s election to PM after that will be a mere formality

, you can join for £3 and be elligable to vote immediately that’s total madness.

errr, jambalaya didn’t you say back along that you did exactly that?

not sure they even need the £3 votes this time around, it certainly would have been a similar landslide for him last time even without the £3 affiliat members. All the polls including the recent Ashcroft one show little sign of this changing.
Complicated perhaps by the extraordinary upsurge in membership again in the last week, except that we have somewhat less statistically rigorous reports that that 2/3 of those 13000 or so are joining for Corbyn. If this is the case, I am highly amused that it looks like a leadership crisis should bring so many more members into a party. I wonder if the same is happening for the blue team? 😆

At the risk of placing binners in the embarrassing position of having to agree with me… 😉

One wonders what the Labour supporters in the country, who voted to put those Members of Parliament in place, feel about having a minority of arrivistes over-ruling their choice of representation.

The noisy apparatchiks of the yoof wing don’t seem to be at all concerned about the anti-democratic nature of their risible activities…

Mr Woppit – Can’t speak for everyone obviously but personally I’m massively pissed off if that helps…

One wonders what the Labour supporters in the country, who voted to put those Members of Parliament in place, feel about having a minority of arrivistes over-ruling their choice of representation.

As I mentioned in the post immediately above yours Woppit, Corbyn would have easily won the leadership contest in the first round even without these arrivistes you speak of. It is unclear whether the support in the party membership reported in recent days includes people who since joined up, I wonder if it is possible to break figures down by “how long have you been a labour party member” but what we do know is that the breakdown of votes when he was voted in last summer was clear that he didn’t need arrivistes or £3 members to get in, and that the PLP had massively misunderstood the wider membership.
Is it possible that they continue to?

[edit] Also why not join the party if you feel so strongly about its leadership being ‘wrongly’ decided by its actual members? I voted green at the GE and am a paid up green party member. I want to demonstrate support to them and give them money (durng the blair years I also signed the bit in my union paperwork that takes my subs out of labour’s and into the general poilitical fund) Incidentally green party membership also precludes me from being a £3 voter so don’t worry about me perverting the course of the labour party with my far lung lefty madness. 😉

Thank you. As you completely failed to understand, I wasn’t talking about Labour Party Members.

I was talking about the electors of the MP’s in the general public who gave those MP’s the mandate to represent them.

Supposedly Momentum said if there is a challenge they will recruit another 100,000 £3-ers.

I’m in 😀

Interesting…

Angela Eagle leadership website registered days before she resigned[/url]

Website registration data appears to show that the domain “angela4leader.org” was set up two days before she resigned

It also came before Hilary Benn was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn early Sunday morning – the spark that set off a major rebellion in the Labour shadow cabinet.

Angela Eagle is expected to announce a run for the leadership of the Labour Party in the coming days.

The website was registered at 6pm on Saturday 25 June, according to its publicly available “whois” information – while Mr Benn was sacked hours later.

It was was not registered by Ms Eagle herself, but Joe McCrea, a PR executive who served as a special adviser in Downing Street during Tony Blair’s tenure.

A spokesperson for Ms Eagle admitted to Buzzfeed that she knows Mr McCrea personally, but said she had not unauthorised the purchase and had been unaware of its existence.

Ms Eagle did not cite Mr Corbyn’s move to sack Mr Benn as a reason for her resignation from the shadow cabinet on Monday morning.

However, the discovery may damage her credibility among supporters of Mr Corbyn, and may convince critics that some Labour figures – if not necessarily Ms Eagle herself – had prior knowledge of the shadow cabinet rebellion.

This is beyond farce now 🙂

There’s no evidence she registered the site, had plans to register the site or knew that someone else was planning to do so.

This is beyond farce now

Exactly 🙂

Jezza’s ego is the size of a small large moon.

One wonders what the Labour supporters in the country, who voted to put those Members of Parliament in place, feel about having a minority of arrivistes over-ruling their choice of representation.

Yes, I agree that the former members of the shadow cabinet have exceeded their brief.

yes one day she just woke up and though you know what I fancy a pop at being leader

She is a politicians he planned and she implemented her plans

Whilst i wont support her what is bad about actually planning and then implementing your plan?

Its far better than wining a referendum then realising your plan is BS.

That registration of that website is pretty damning for the Blairites!

I’m getting quite optimistic about the contents of the Chilcot report.

chakaping – Member

I hear you Ernie. I am really torn on the subject of Corbyn.

I have a lot of respect for him and its great to see a proper socialist at the forefront of UK politics, even if I think he failed to get the message across that it was socialist reforms like the welfare state which formed the foundation of the “golden era” that Leave voters were pining for.

I’ve always thought he’d be a transitional figure, heralding a rebalancing of Labour policy leftwards – but probably not that far left.

This is a genuine question chakaping because I would actually be very interested in the answer, it’s something which honestly baffles me.

Why do you think Corbyn is that far left ?

I know that the Tories, the Blairites, and their friends in the media, portray Corbyn as far-left, but why does anyone believe them?

What arguments have you heard Corbyn make chakaping that makes you think he is far-left? I personally can’t off the top of my head think of any – and presumably there must be loads?

Sure he’s substantially to the left of Tony Blair, but then so are probably most people on this forum – I wouldn’t describe this place as far-left though.

Corbyn is actually to the right of the two Labour prime ministers before Blair and they were both considered to be on the right of the party.

I personally could be fairly described as far-left, I don’t consider Corbyn to be even a socialist, I consider him to be a social-democrat, a good social-democrat though. Of course I might have got him wrong but is there any proof that I have?

And btw imo it’s not just those on the right who overstate Corbyn’s leftiness, I have heard a few left-wingers also do.

Whilst i wont support her what is bad about actually planning and then implementing your plan?

Some might argue that planning a campaign to become leader of a party when there isn’t a vacancy, and 12 months after the members, supporters, and affiliates, all, without exception, decisively elected someone for the job, isn’t what is expected from a senior politician whose responsibilities includes working very closely with the leader.

I would anyway.

And btw for the record I personally voted for Angela Eagle to be deputy leader (iirc she came 4th). The choice it has to be said was appalling but I just couldn’t bring myself to vote for Tom Watson as many Corbyn supporters did. The truth is that left-wing candidates in PLP elections are practically nonexistent. Although there was one and the support he received from the party was overwhelming.

I am disappointed you dont like coup d’etats ernie 😉

I see your point re her actions. I just dont care

Its also a pretty good point that he is not that left wing either

lets not forget the media referred to ed as Red ed

Why do you think Corbyn is that far left ?

He’s clearly a left wing nutter who can’t be trusted unlike the Labour PLP who clearly have the interests of ordinary people at heart

What arguments have you heard Corbyn make chakaping that makes you think he is far-left? I personally can’t off the top of my head think of any – and presumably there must be loads?

this is a very good point, I can’t think of a significant change in Labour policy since his election, lots of committee’s and working groups but not a single policy change

perhaps Ernie could help confirm this lack of change from the post-Blairism of Ed

Well I’m not sure why the responsibility should rest with me but yes, I can confirm that Labour’s 2020 election manifesto has not been released.

I can also confirm that if Corbyn remains leader until 2020 the election manifesto will different to the election manifesto of 2015.

Will it look like ‘the longest suicide note in history?’

So we are still constrained by the LW v RW BS 😯

Labour did not lose the last election by being either too LW or not LW enough. This is the red herring that dogs all debate and is a bloody irrelevance.

If they cant be bothered to learn the lessons of history, they are doomed to repeat them.

Time to update the narrative.

I can also confirm that if Corbyn remains leader until 2020 the election manifesto will different to the election manifesto of 2015.

A new career in forecasting awaits Ernie 😉

Well I’m not sure why the responsibility should rest with me but yes, I can confirm that Labour’s 2020 election manifesto has not been released.

I can also confirm that if Corbyn remains leader until 2020 the election manifesto will different to the election manifesto of 2015.

I thought you needed policies in order to oppose the government policies for 5 years, or is it all just slogans and hot air for 4 years and six months?

binners – Member

Will it look like ‘the longest suicide note in history?’

Posted 5 minutes ago

That’s hilarious binners!

Do you get your jokes from the Daily Mail?

It has a Richard Littlejohn quality to it.

big_n_daft – Member

I thought you needed policies in order to oppose the government policies for 5 years

No, Labour is currently supporting all of the Tory government’s policies.

HTH