- How GOOD are Hope Brakes!!!!!!!
Well I have to say ive just joined the Hope fold so to speak with my first set of x2 tech brakes and levers…. No rotors as yet, and with the addition of the match maker for my xtr shifters, all i can say at the moment is that im OVER THE MOON……
At last I can put the shifters just where then needed to be, and they look the b….ks cant wait to add to the mix if the calliper accepts a 203mm front floating rotor and 185 rear which will look the nuts so reminds me of my motor bike racing days…..
I love a little bit of bling….Posted 7 years agoDrRSwankMember
Hope have great back up, service and spares, customer support, great company etc…
Untrue.[/u] I had hideous issues with two sets of Mono M4s years ago and the customer service was crap in the extreme! The LBS ended up swapping them for Hayes brakes as we were getting nowhere with the muppets at Hope
But unfortunately their performance is not on par with many (also much cheaper) brake manufacturers…
They’re not great brakes but they do have a loyal UK following. I’d never have them on a bike again though.Posted 7 years agoPJM1974Member
I’ve two sets of M4s, the oldest dates from 2004 and are still going nicely without a rebuild.
They’re a doddle to work on, spares can be picked up comparatively cheaply anywhere and bleeding them is easy in the extreme. Oh and I love the industrial aesthetic. The lever shape is spot on too.
The downside is that they’re not that powerful. My M4s can’t compete with my Juicys and Hayes Stroker Trails which have 20mm smaller rotors for outright stopping power or modulation.Posted 7 years agojamesMember
“If youv’e got no strength at all in your hands”
I thought hydraulic disc brakes shouldn’t require you to have to use all your hand strength to stop?
An advantage over V-brakes I thought was hydraulic disc brakes (should) have enough power (and modulation) to brake with one finger, also allowing you to hold on with 3 fingers (largely independant of braking), rather than just the 2 (or less?) smallest fingers?
Hopes I’ve had (no current ones) once bled do have power, it just seems you have to pull really hard to get it. Modulation hasn’t been great (though the lever sort of feels like it does?)Posted 7 years agoTandemJeremyMember
I have several sets of hopes all of which can lock either wheel with a single finger easily. None of the shimanos I have ridden had any more power.
They do not have the initial bite of some brakes – you can either have that or the feel – I like the soft lever feel as it allows more modulation. I think sometimes this gets confused for lack of power.
All IS mount tho ( bar one caliper) and all on smallish discs so get nice and hot and sintered pads. all annually bled with fresh fluid.Posted 7 years ago
reedspeed – Member
std sintered pads & castrol SRF, if its good enough for moto gp you lot wont boil it
No offence but that’s a wee bit of a silly statement, there’s too many differences in the hardware. Bicycle brakes take a lot of heat with less radiator to cool them and far less fluid. Also, brake fade isn’t just about overheating fluid, it’s also about overheating pads past their comfortable operating temp.
Different brakes respond differently to heat, when we were in france one chap had a lot of bother with his X2s, even when we were riding the same pace down the same sections he ran into fade while I never did (cheapo Oros with cheapo pads and halfords fluid). Could be he had a maintenance issue o’course.Posted 7 years ago
All I can say is that I (me) can stop my 5 dead in it’s tracks (co-efficient of friction between tyres & surface taken into account) with my X2’s whilst moving at a reasonable speed.Posted 7 years ago
Yes, I have used other brakes. Hayes 9’s were the worst. I’m happy as Larry, whoever Larry is, with my X2’s on the 5 & my old M4’s on the HT.
Don’t know about their back up service as I’ve never used them for a brake problem, just a broken axle on an XC hub.
for sure it is all about feel as its all a leap of faith whether yr get on with and like etc the product.Posted 7 years ago
All I know is that when my race motor bike brakes were bleed right they worked!! and believe me u need them to work when yr steaming into a corner with 25 other riders all wanting the same bit of track!!!robsoctaneMember
I’ve got a set of M4 Evo’s using 203 floating rotors. I’ve used many different brakes before and all I would like to say is that my Hopes are the best brakes I’ve ever used.
They NEED to be set up correctly in order for them to have the best power but get them right and nothing compares. Some brakes are more powerful but none are more usable.
Modulation/feel is were the Hopes win hands down over everything else. I now couldn’t go as fast without Hope brakes. I’ve gotten used to the feel and nothing else will do – usable power is worth every penny.
The brakes that others say are more powerful are usually wooden feeling to me, very on/off.
Super4: you’ll love em!
Well done HOPE! 😀Posted 7 years agomolgripsSubscriber
Another Hope fan here. I’ve used Hayes and Shimano. Shim I also like, but Hope once bled nicely are as good. Hard to tell really though since the bikes don’t get the same usage.
The Shimano bleeding procedure is a joke though. The instructions say basically leave it and let the bubbles float up. Great.. very rigorous there, you really know when it’s worked 🙄Posted 7 years ago
molgrips – Member
The Shimano bleeding procedure is a joke though. The instructions say basically leave it and let the bubbles float up. Great.. very rigorous there, you really know when it’s worked
Which Shimanos? The instructions for my old ones couldn’t be more different from that tbh (in fact they bled exactly like Hope!)Posted 7 years ago
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