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Can I ask why it is a beautiful frame or the most well finished frame I’ve seen?

Serious now – I think people are just seeing the Cervelo decals and getting excited. Take those off and it look like any other mass produced carbon frame like planet x sell. Carbon frames look like carbon frames….

Can I ask why it is a beautiful frame or the most well finished frame I’ve seen?

Because it costs about 3 and a half grand.

Can’t say I’m hugely experienced in road riding, having owned the grand total of one bike for 1300 miles…. but I have carbon 3T ergo bars, lovely.

I also have a set of cosmic carbones, weight definitely isn’t everything – just picked up a cheaper and lighter set of pro-lite braccianos for winter use, they are 300g lighter than the cosmics but I am actually slightly slower on them according to the garmin. They are noticably more comfortable than the cosmics, much more comfortable.

ooh can I share 🙂

Just got a new road bike too.

Lots of deliberation about wheels so went for the Fulcrum 1’s in the end.

Will report back if any issues

Spesh Roubaix (as I’m old and need the comfort – which I must say it is. 100 mile ride and not as tired as 50 on my old bike)

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Please note, valves and logos now sorted

I’ve found cervelo’s to be some of the worst finished frames (given the price) I’ve come across.Most of the ones I’ve built have had some sort of minor paint/finish defect.
I’d budget for a new mech hanger as the stock ones are pish (importer recommends changing them straight away for campg 11 speed use).
I’m not sure what cervelo’s new owners are up to exactly as they have dumped a LOT of stock onto the market at massive discount.Certainly does’nt help the brands exclusive/prestige image.
I do like them (NOT S5’s though) btw.

Nice bike mr.

I think people are just seeing the Cervelo decals and getting excited. Take those off and it look like any other mass produced carbon frame like planet x sell. Carbon frames look like carbon frames….

That’s the problem with carbon tho innit. I used to work at Madison so I know Cervelos fairly well. Talk to Gerard Vroomen for a while and have a close look at a frame, then ride one, and you see why they are so highly regarded. You don’t always see or hear of the real design thinking in a bike. It’s not always there at all ) but Cervelo have more than most and aren’t ones for styling and BS. That doesn’t mean they’re ‘better’ for everyone, but they are very well thought-out bikes that ride very well.

Edit – or were, based on the post above !! Mind you I also saw some finishing howlers from another very high-end road / carbon brand, so maybe production qc doesn’t always match design intent.

Can I ask why it is a beautiful frame or the most well finished frame I’ve seen?

The paint finish is flawless and the proportions – tube diameters, profiles etc – are, in my opinion, beautiful. It has that undefinable simplicity and brevity of detail that you only seem to find on perfectly designed and engineered objects. Nothing superfluace, no frills, fuss or excess styling.

It’s as stiff as any frame I’ve ridden and yet is implausibly light. I just think it screams class, it doesn’t have the cobra head or swooping tubes of an SL4, or the massively oversized downtube of an Evo, or the angles and edges of a Madone. Just clean lines, pencil-thin seat stays, and a perfect silhouette. I love it!

This is quite interesting reading (Giant TCR Advanced Sl Isp owner )
Frame Testing

Nice data, but essentially, there is no difference between the top pro-level carbon frames from Giant, Specialized, Cannondale and Cervelo. So choose based on geometry and colour.

That and the ALUXX alloy frame from Giant is a very good frame. My local dealer has the 9K carbon bling cannondale, and was surprised that the CAAD10 felt pretty much the same.

That won’t load on my iPad, what does it say rorschach?

That mt TCR is the awesomest eva!!! 😆 (giant test data!!)
Basically that there’s not that much between an Evo,R5 and SL4 (but it is a bit of a porker) in weight,torsional stiffness and BB stiffness……and that Madones are rubbish.

That your R5 has very good pedalling stiffness, (bottom bracket), and average steering stiffness, whilst Giant’s don’t flex in the slightest.

Mine makes my feet hurt 😯 (but not my bum 😯 )

Can I ask why it is a beautiful frame or the most well finished frame I’ve seen?

It is if you have never laid eyes on a Baum, Cyfac, Parlee, Pegoretti, I.F. Serotta etc.

My other bike is a TCR C3, so I can agree that it’s a lovely bike. Weighs about twice as much as the Cervélo though, and it’s nowhere near as stiff laterally…

I’ve got one of those them there R5 VWDs under the bed waiting to be built up.

Probably go with new Sram Red. Already got Ergosum Ltd bars, Tune clinchers and Hed Stinger 4 tubs to go on it off the old bike. Should be lovely, and light.

56cm frame weighed 760g!

Shibboleth, are you going with the Rotor cranks or DA and adapter?

I’m going with the Dura Ace. I like it as a piece of engineering and the option to have 52/36 chain rings appeals as I hate true compacts and I want this to be a “do it all” bike.

Think I’m gonna go for the rotundo team bars and matching stem.

Beautiful frame, look forward to seeing the finished build.

The paint finish is flawless and the proportions – tube diameters, profiles etc – are, in my opinion, beautiful. It has that undefinable simplicity and brevity of detail that you only seem to find on perfectly designed and engineered objects. Nothing superfluace, no frills, fuss or excess styling.

^^ This. Road frames should be sleek, minimalist and simple. Anything with garish paint jobs and bendy tubes (yes Pinarello, I do mean your abominations) should be outlawed.

You can’t really mention Parlee in the same thread as Cervelo.

I’m sorry but you can’t.

Go stand in the corner you naughty Bouy.

Can I ask why it is a beautiful frame or the most well finished frame I’ve seen?

It is if you have never laid eyes on a Baum, Cyfac, Pegoretti, I.F. Serotta etc.

This is what I mean really, not saying a Cervelo is bad in any way or that it doesn’t ride well. That is not the point, but beautiful. No, not in my opinion, just because it looks to much like every other unbranded carbon frame I’ve ever seen.

There you go Rik, a typical unbranded carbon frame…

And a Cervélo R5…

(if you’re still having trouble deciding which one is more beautiful, perhaps refer to my earlier post to see what I look for in bicycle design and see if that helps…) 😉

I’m a Giant man through and through, when I needed a new frame earlier this year I came close to buying a Cervelo, but I couldn’t detect any difference so stuck with the Giant.
Cervelo then Giant are by far the most well raced frames in this area. Proof in the pudding etc.

There’s a nice de stickered Cervelo on our circuit, even the DA carbons have had the stealth treatment.

How has it been destickered? Mine is painted/lacquered – is it just a raw carbon frame?

if I had the money I would go for a Colnago, probably a C59.

The Europcar C59s had me drooling at the Tour de Luxembourg this year. I must have spent 15 minutes on 3 consecutive days just staring at them.

I was all geared up to buy one as a long term build project but the 40% off sale of a carbon cannondale synapse got my attention. I still quite fancy one but can’t justify another bike at all 🙂

Always loved Colnagos, they were my absolute dream bike as a teenager in the late 80s/early 90s.

Was looking at the whole range at NEC Bike Show and those lugs put me off – can’t help thinking it’s a bit of a retro detail for detail’s sake. The version in Italia colours is beautiful…

Aren’t they knocking those cervelos out at half price on the Madison site?

Had a couple of TCR Advanced SL’s both were fantastic bikes. Certainly the best offering ive tried from any of the mainstreamers and very underrated.

Currently running a 695SR which is loooovely 🙂

Aren’t they knocking those cervelos out at half price on the Madison site?

Yes, hence why I chose the R5 over the SL4… We covered this earlier in the thread… You’d know this if you’d read it instead of just trying to make unkind comments about someones new bike. 🙄

How very dare you!. I have made no unkind comments.
Alerting others to your doe-eyed opinions and pointing out half price goods to purchase is being more than benevolent

pointing out half price goods to purchase is being more than benevolent

Yeah yeah yeah, whatevurrrrrrr… You were hoping I’d spent £3.5k on it so you could laugh at me 😉

Why did you not get a Parlee?!

Because I prefer Cervélo.

That’s just wrong

I’m only pulling your leg.

Why? I’d rather have a bike ridden by the cycling stars that I’ve supported for years rather than some nichey, low volume cottage industry bike that carries little brand caché other than amongst elitist, esoteric bike bores. 😉

Shameless plug. 😉
While there are a few road types on here, this frame is going up for sale as of tomorrow. Lynskey cooper M/L.

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Baum, Cyfac, Parlee, Pegoretti, I.F. Serotta

Meh. Cafe bikes, not race bikes…

Spot on Crikey!

FWIW, i’d buy a Ritte if i had the money. One of these or the full carbon Bosberg
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unfortunately i haven’t got the money, so i’m selling the Lynskey to help pay for a new kitchen and am replacing it for a second hand Condor squadra. Photos by the weekend.