- Global warming update!
we could debate why temps are rising but not if
Ignoring actual measures of temperature the shrinking of the polar regions should convince anyone as a proxy measure
the last 14 years involves taking the record high of 1997[an el nino year so weather]and would have to ignore the fact that the last decade was the hottest ever recorded. the stable or declining s just not true for the last 40 years.
i assume you could plot a straight line of best fit on this
it looks like this
HTHPosted 5 years ago
Figures released ‘quietly’ on the Internet this week shows that there has been no descernable rise in aggregate global temperatures for 16 yrs. this means that the plateau in global warming has now lasted for the same amount of time as the previous period 80-96 when temps rose. Before that temps had been stable or declining for 40 years.
So does this prove once and for all tbat all these ‘green’ taxes we’ve been forced to pay have been raised on the back of a fallacy?Posted 5 years agomiketuallySubscriber
At a guess, the OP’s source was the Mail on Sunday. Specifically, an article by David Rose.
Firstly, it shouldn’t need debunking because it’s in the Mail. Stop reading the Mail; it rots your mind and poisons your heart and soul. And probably causes/cures cancer.
Secondly, here’s the Met Office response: http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012/Posted 5 years agomikey74Member
I’m kind of getting fed up with all this debate over whether global warming is happening or not. What is wrong with reducing, and eventually eliminating, our dependency on fossil fuels? What is so wrong with reducing pollution? What is so wrong with taking care of ourselves and the planet?
I think this is vital, regardless of whether we are causing global warming or not.
The sooner we get over this “have we caused global warming” argument the better.Posted 5 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
Well… Antartic sea ice is covering a record area, but that doesn’t mean there’s a record amount of ice (can’t find any figures for volume rather than area, which is annoying).
Ironically, it seems to be being caused by the higher winds caused by antartic warming, which is spreading the ice further.
Buuuut, antartic land ice is still in decline. And that’s more troublesome because ice on water doesn’t affect coast levels but ice on land, if it melts, does.Posted 5 years ago
I just love the fact that you Guys are franticallyresearching Internet data, in order to post a comment!
I would like to take this opportunity and apologise unreservedly for posting up the actual data of what has been occurring.
I apologise for my rational approach of being led by the evidence/data and in future shall endeavour to have an ill informed knee jerk reaction in the face of inaccurate reports.
I have seen the light and it has the face of a grinning hippy in sandals counting the taxes from their global windmill enterprise the lieing bastards
Happy now OPPosted 5 years ago
I would like to take this opportunity and apologise unreservedly for posting up the
actualhomogenised data of what has been occurring.
(PS. both the data sets you used above share the same, homogenised, GHCN past data origin, and then both carry out further homogenisation and adjustments to the data before analysing. Hope that helps)Posted 5 years ago
What say ye of proxy measures like glacial regions melting 😉
I’d point you towards the ease with which people can misrepresent data in respected pseudo-scientific reports ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/himalayan-glaciers-melt-claims-false-ipcc )
now what say ye of proxy measures like Bristlecone pine growth rings 😉Posted 5 years ago
respected pseudo-scientific reports
you have a higher opinion of a Guardian article than i do///Who knew you rated it far better than i do
Not interested in a “debate”Posted 5 years ago
For anyone who cares Wiki [ which Zulu loves] explains the rationale for the process.
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