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  • WorldClassAccident
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    I do agree with the sentiment of what you are saying but have to ask what you are doing reading the WhatsApp chat groups of teenaged school-girls?

    jimster01
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68604971

    Not sure what to make of Mercedes new technical signing.

    nickc
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    what you are doing reading the WhatsApp chat groups of teenaged school-girls?

    Tell me you don’t have a daughter, without telling me you don’t have a daughter. Plus I work with GPs, it amounts to more or less the same thing

    swavis
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    jimster01

    Not sure what to make of Mercedes new technical signing

    It’s looking more and more like Lewis timed things just right 🤣

    sockpuppet
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    Plus I work with GPs, it amounts to more or less the same thing

    Lol

    jimster01
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    FP2 is over –

    1. Charles Leclerc (Ferrari) – 1:17.277

    2. Max Verstappen (Red Bull)

    3. Carlos Sainz (Ferrari)

    4. Lance Stroll (Aston Martin)

    5. Fernando Alonso (Aston Martin)

    6. George Russell (Mercedes)

    7. Oscar Piastri (McLaren)

    8. Sergio Perez (Red Bull)

    9. Lando Norris (McLaren)

    10. Yuki Tsunoda (RB)

    The ex- Mercedes driver Hamilton down in 18th.

    I can’t see anything from FP1, obviously the BBC weren’t up to report it on their website.

    thols2
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    P20
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    You’d be mad not to give the car to Albon if there’s only one available

    the-muffin-man
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    If they do that it implies Sargeant isn’t good enough (which he isn’t), so why does he have the seat in the first place.

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    thols2
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    Albon wrecked his car. Sargeant didn’t. Sargeant still has a car to drive, Albon doesn’t.

    the-muffin-man
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    …it appears Albon does have a car to drive now!

    thols2
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    “Graceful acceptance.” LOL

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-albon-to-take-over-sargeants-car-for-remainder-of-australia-gp.7ChNFI7T7TVDLhfythuOzg

    “This decision was not made lightly, and we cannot thank Logan enough for his graceful acceptance, demonstrating his dedication to the team; he is a true team player. This will prove a tough weekend for Williams, and this situation is not one that we will put ourselves in again.”

    mashr
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    thols2
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    Albon wrecked his car. Sargeant didn’t. Sargeant still has a car to drive, Albon doesn’t

    Turns out Sargeant’s car is just a rental (to nobody’s surprise)

    nickc
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    If they do that it implies Sargeant isn’t good enough

    Every team put in that dilemma would give the car to the better driver, and every team knows who its better driver is. This is as true for Williams as it would be for RB, Mercedes or Ferrari.

    thepurist
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    In the days when they raced in black and white there were instances where a driver took their team mates car in the middle of the race, iirc Fangio won a world championship by doing that.

    multi21
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    Makes total sense from the team’s POV, but as a fan I still don’t like it, just seems really harsh on LS.

    I didn’t like it when RB did a similar thing to Webber either but at least Webber didn’t have to actually miss the race in that case!

    Chew
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    Pragmatic decision by Vowles (i’m sure Frank would have done similar)

    Not great news for Sergeant, and expecting Antonelli/Bearman to be taking that seat soon.

    futonrivercrossing
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    👍

    Button is already driving a Porsche 963 in the WEC

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    multi21
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    mashr

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    Have a poor man’s like: 
    multi21
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    andrewh
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    Here’s a rule I don’t know.

    If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who’s allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?

    I’m guessing per car as Bearman didn’t get a brand new one and added some wear and tear to Carlos’s? But in that case what’s to stop teams swapping drivers into the other car if they have a problem at a crucial point in the championship rater than take a penalty? (Please let us have a crucial point in the championship this year 🙈)

    PJM1974
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    I feel for Sargeant in this one, the writing truly is on the wall for him now.

    thols2
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    If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who’s allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?

    Per driver, but I think relief drivers come out of the allocation of the driver they replace.

    jamesy01
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    If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who’s allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?

    they’ll swap Albons components on to Sergeants chassis  overnight.

    Its not uncommon for drivers to use the same chassis at some point over a season.

    escrs
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    Anyone notice Alex’s halo flex/indent as he lifted himself out of the car in qualy!

    pipm1
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    I didn’t see that, but the halo is titanium so it was probably just the carbon shell deflecting.

    https://www.fia.com/news/how-make-f1-halo

    escrs
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    Ahh k,  didnt know they were a carbon shell over titainuim tubes

    j4mie
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    Doubt Sargeant would’ve qualified 12th.

    vlad_the_invader
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    How much does an appendix weigh? Carlos seems to have found some speed from somewhere….

    thols2
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    Ahh k,  didnt know they were a carbon shell over titainuim tubes

    I think they’re actually solid titanium, not a tube. There was an article somewhere about them when the Sauber on broke off a couple of years ago.

    slowoldman
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    How much does an appendix weigh? Carlos seems to have found some speed from somewhere….

    I actually think mentally the pressure is off Carlos and on Charles who has to prove he is the one to keep.

    andrewh
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    Wasn’t it the roll hoop which broke on Zhou’s Sauber? That crash at Silverstone. Took the initial impact but gave up on the second one.

    thols2
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    Wasn’t it the roll hoop which broke on Zhou’s Sauber?

    From what I remember, Sauber used a spike design rather than a hoop like the other teams. The tip of the spike dug into the ground and it was torn off the carbon fibre tub. The spike and the tub were strong enough, the failure was where they were bonded together. I think the rules were changed after that to require a hoop (which is joined to the tub in two places instead of one). Whatever the case, I think it’s a solid bar of titanium, so it’s quite heavy (hence a spike would shave a bit of weight from the highest point on the car).

    Edit. And the same goes with the halo. I think they are a solid titanium structure covered with carbon fibre, hence quite heavy.

    thols2
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    Actually, no, the halo is made in several pieces and then welded together. The front “v-transition” is machined from a solid piece of titanium. There are two tubular sections behind that, plus mounting brackets at the back of those. Those are all welded together then machined. The assembly weighs 7 kg, which would have cost about a quarter a second per lap.

    https://www.racecar-engineering.com/tech-explained/tech-explained-formula-1-halo/#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20popular%20belief%2C%20the,two%20African%20elephants%20%5B1%5D.

    the-muffin-man
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    I had a feeling I should get up!!! Awesome!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    the-muffin-man
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    Now get a hustle on Lando – this is your chance.

    Daffy
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    The roll hoops aren’t solid either.  We’ve designed and printed quite a few of them for a number of teams over the years.  They have to take a given load and so are optimised for mass reduction (and other things…) whilst still being able to take those impact and shear loads.

    jimster01
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    I wonder if Ferrari are thinking they maybe letting the wrong driver go.  I know Leclerc is under contract but all the same.

    A good result for McLaren too, bad for Checo, and as for Mercedes 🤦

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