Formula 1 2024 – WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

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I’d had no personal opinion about Horner, TBH F1 has been a refuge for some of the world’s biggest shits for decades – Balestre, Enzo, etc.  But assuming that the allegations have substance, someone at his level sending a subordinate female employee sleazy texts isn’t about pursuing a romantic relationship, it’s about the abuse of power.  If the allegations can be proved, IMHO he needs to fall on his sword, eff off and pay an acceptable amount of recompense to whoever was on the receiving end so to speak.

Here’s someone who deserved to be in F1, https://www.teamgb.com/article/winter-tale-divina-galica/5zssuUEDCdKYpjZc9VJ0Ro

To me there always seems to be something nasty in the Redbull f1 team . With baby Verstaphen, his father and Horner there is the perfect recipe for a toxic atmosphere

Should the rumours prove true, then the most surprising thing in this saga will be that out of Verstappen’s jnr, snr and Horner, it’s the latter that gets done for this type of behaviour first.

https://x.com/roblmyers/status/1758825523604557904?s=46&t=EQoHg-RGok071Fjc15ZHKw

Sounds like they want this wrapped up before testing starts.

Should the rumours prove true, then the most surprising thing in this saga will be that out of Verstappen’s jnr, snr and Horner

The ‘Stappens are more fighty than touchy! 🤣🥊

If there was nothing to answer, the investigation would have been concluded.
the fact that they went ahead with the launch and Horner was present, seems like they just don’t give a shit and they/him are above it all.

If VCARB roll out the garage on Wednesday morning with a conceptually similar car to Red Bull, Zak Brown – will rightly – explode!… 🙂

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/red-bull-rb20-technik-geheimnis/

Interesting to see what Williams have been up to to – they’ve released nothing about this years car.

Interesting to see what Williams have been up to to – they’ve released nothing about this years car.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/why-2024-williams-f1-car-fw46-is-late/

I guess that we’ll know on Wednesday whether it’s Just late, or whether it’s Late late.

Given up on Sky (and saved myself £70 a month on the sports subscription.) Going to try to use the Now Tv 24 hour pass to watch selected races – I think we could all admit to ourselves that some of them are dull…Now just to chose which ones to watch

Given up on Sky (and saved myself £70 a month on the sports subscription.)

I only watch on Sky as I piggy-back off my dads account – he never uses the Sky Go app – so it would be rude of me not to make use of it!

When F1TV Pro for the season only costs the price of one months Sky – it just shows how much we are being ripped off.

I just watch the C4 highlights.
Even that takes up enough time & the highlights manage to squeeze in enough of the ‘action’ that I don’t feel like I’m really missing out.

I just watch the C4 highlights.

I have now taken to reading the race report and then watching the highlights if it sounds like it is worth watching. Putting the whole lot behind a paywall killed off much interest from me.

I just watch the C4 highlights.

This is my thoughts, there’s 10 or so races I’ll probably watch live, they’re either opening/closing races; Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, or ones that I’ve though have been good in the past, although Spa makes it on to the list, and unless there’s weather (not too much, just the right amount) it’s often dull.

I’m thinking Bahrain, Australian, Japan, Imola, Silverstone, Spa, Zandvoort, Monza, Singapore, Brazil, Abu Dhabi. Some I’ll not watch at all just becasue of the Sports Washing, but if anything else becomes a crash-fest or just seems like a decent race, I’ll watch on C4 catch up.

I should add that I also generally record the C4 highlights on my Humax box, so I can fast-forward the ads, the bits where Webber & Coulthard talk endlessly about how great Red Bull are & the Karen Horner interviews.

Hmmm, I’m not the most devoted F1 fan, I’ll admit.

I tend to listen to 5 live, may watch highlights on YouTube. Putting it behind a paywall killed it for me.

@stumpy01

+1 it’s nice to wizz past the RB bum lacking.

C4 highlights for me too and remember that most of the presenters are on the RB payroll

the bits where Webber & Coulthard talk endlessly about how great Red Bull are & the Karen Horner interviews.

The C4/ Red Bull love-in is a bit tedious. Is it not produced by Couldthard’s production company?

It is.

If anyone is contemplating watching the Rob and Romesh F1 ‘special’ on Sky I can save you the trouble – don’t bother. How two people who have no interest in the sport can be given that level of access is beyond me, and they don’t even pretend to be interested.

I should add that I also generally record the C4 highlights on my Humax box, so I can fast-forward the ads, the bits where Webber & Coulthard talk endlessly about how great Red Bull are & the Karen Horner interviews.

Same. The highlights are generally decent enough that I don’t miss the full coverage.

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The C4/ Red Bull love-in is a bit tedious. Is it not produced by Couldthard’s production company

If by some miracle, Horner does leave, it’ll be really funny to see how Coulthard and Weber spin it 😁

[kittyr]

kittyr

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I should add that I also generally record the C4 highlights on my Humax box, so I can fast-forward the ads, the bits where Webber & Coulthard talk endlessly about how great Red Bull are & the Karen Horner interviews.

Same. The highlights are generally decent enough that I don’t miss the full coverage.

They do a decent job, you still miss out on a lot of the context during the race though, people closing up gaps over several laps etc.

Still waiting for F1 TV to be made available in the UK (legally anyway).

[kittyr]

I should add that I also generally record the C4 highlights on my Humax box, so I can fast-forward the ads, the bits where Webber & Coulthard talk endlessly about how great Red Bull are & the Karen Horner interviews.

Same. The highlights are generally decent enough that I don’t miss the full coverage.

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it’ll be really funny to see how Coulthard and Weber spin it

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The Williams has now appeared

The FW46 rolls out in Bahrain ??? pic.twitter.com/VTxA0ytMWT

— Williams Racing (@WilliamsRacing) February 20, 2024

Logan Sergeant driving it too – hope they’ve made plenty of spare parts…

Good news on Williams getting the car out. I’ve got faith in James Vowles but I thought it was going to be another 2019 for a minute…

How two people who have no interest in the sport can be given that level of access is beyond me, and they don’t even pretend to be interested.

I used to work for a commercial specialist cleaning company, and we were quoting to clean the Merc factory. Looking down the spec was mental, all the various departments to clean, inc ‘Toto’s Office’…

Sales guy had no interest in F1 whatsoever, so a full, all access factory tour (inc a shit ton of NDAs) when pricing up, way more involved than any punter would get, was wasted on him 😤

Logan Sergeant driving it too

In the off-season he was remarkably candid about his performance, and his shock at just how brutal a season in F1 was compared to his expectations, and experience thus far racing formula cars. He’s done quite a bit of work to improve his fitness apparently. I’m looking forward to seeing how he does, as underneath I think there’s a decent driver.

I did some data work for Benneton F1 at Enstone, a few years back, and got the factory tour. It was amazing and not wasted on me at all.

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Logan Sergeant driving it too

In the off-season he was remarkably candid about his performance, and his shock at just how brutal a season in F1 was compared to his expectations, and experience thus far racing formula cars. He’s done quite a bit of work to improve his fitness apparently. I’m looking forward to seeing how he does, as underneath I think there’s a decent driver.

The other thing is that F1 drivers used to get a decent amount of testing mileage in before they even showed up at their first F1 race.  Nowadays it’s pretty much an FP1 session or two, and maybe a young driver test then straight into pre-season testing under public scrutiny.

[nickc]

Logan Sergeant driving it too

In the off-season he was remarkably candid about his performance, and his shock at just how brutal a season in F1 was compared to his expectations, and experience thus far racing formula cars. He’s done quite a bit of work to improve his fitness apparently. I’m looking forward to seeing how he does, as underneath I think there’s a decent driver.

I did some data work for Benneton F1 at Enstone, a few yearsdecades back

FTFY

The other thing is that F1 drivers used to get a decent amount of testing mileage in before they even showed up at their first F1 race.

And now they turn up having spent hours and hours in the simulator which (by all accounts) is a bit more than just a fancy video game. Sure to they won’t have the physical effort of driving the car, but they’re not exactly unprepared for F1.

Sales guy had no interest in F1 whatsoever, so a full, all access factory tour (inc a shit ton of NDAs) when pricing up, way more involved than any punter would get, was wasted on him

A very good friend works in a very niche business that supplies rolling road type of stuff (I suspect it’s all significantly more complex than big treadmills) to the motor trade – he’s been to a few F1 sites as well as several major car manufacturers across the world. I am not sure if it’s still the same, but there was a time that he was not even allowed on site with any kind of image capture device (ie, including phones with cameras). He’s got a great job!

[thepurist]

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The other thing is that F1 drivers used to get a decent amount of testing mileage in before they even showed up at their first F1 race.

And now they turn up having spent hours and hours in the simulator which (by all accounts) is a bit more than just a fancy video game. Sure to they won’t have the physical effort of driving the car, but they’re not exactly unprepared for F1.

Read Nick’s post that I quoted 🙂

Also, Williams sim (like all their other equipment) was/is massively outdated. I think I read they’ve got capex budget approval to replace it this year.

[thepurist]

The other thing is that F1 drivers used to get a decent amount of testing mileage in before they even showed up at their first F1 race.

And now they turn up having spent hours and hours in the simulator which (by all accounts) is a bit more than just a fancy video game. Sure to they won’t have the physical effort of driving the car, but they’re not exactly unprepared for F1.

VCARB has hit the tracks – livery looked nice in the moodily lit renders – looks a bloody mess on track!! IMO of course…

“Already a couple of steps improvement to last year”: RB 01’s first run in pictures