Football – 2023/24 Season

Surely Utd would want rid?

They (the owners, not the fans) clearly didn’t want rid. Far from it. They wanted him back in the first team. They were forced, slowly and gracelessly (as always), into this decision and they’re not happy about it

There’s only one reason anything happens at United…

Money!

I reckon the only reason they’ve got this far is because a major sponsor will have threatened to pull their money. The Glazers are a moral vacuum who don’t give a toss what anybody thinks. The bottom line is all that matters

I’m sure they’re busy wracking their parasitic minds to think up some way they can still cash in. I reckon they’ll be hoping the loan is a ‘shop window’ and this will blow over enough for them to then sell him on with a bit less fuss, maybe in the January window

Getafe don’t want to be stuck with an expensive player if the fans/league don’t accept him.   A loan is a ‘toe in the water’

Indeed. See Martials disastrous loan spell at Seville, which means he’s another one on our extensive ‘we don’t want him because he’s crap, but nobody else can afford his wages’ list. I’m sure he’ll inevitably leave on a free.

There’s probably all manner of clauses in Greenwood’s loan deal. A lot of loan deals are essentially just scams to get around FFP rules anyway. Ask Chelsea

I don’t think the Glazers are involved as you think binners, in day to day decisions at least, as long as the money’s rolling in they’re happy. Richard Arnold and Erik ten Hag were the ones driving the re-integration.

Re the loan and lack of transfer there are comparisons to David Goodwillie, the Scottish player who was found guilty of rape, albeit in a civil court. A few clubs have signed him since and been forced to end his contract due to the outcry. United have chosen the worst option here by not sacking him – continue to pay his wages while he goes out on various loans as no one will buy him until the end of his contract.

I don’t think the Glazers are involved as you think binners, in day to day decisions at least

The opposite is true. The reason that the Greenwood thing dragged on for months and the reason the transfer dealings always dissolve into farce is because every minute decision has to be signed off by one of those two ****s in the states, so nothing ever gets done.

And United – or should we say, The Glazers – will always make the worst possible decision, guaranteed. As sure as night follows day

The Monday Night Club on Five Live tonight started with a half hour discussion about what a total shambles of a club United now is. A joke. An absolute laughing stock. It was painful to listen to because it was true.

Their assessment, now that the Glazers have said that the club isn’t actually for sale after all (I was shocked, honest… who saw that coming?) is that we’re at the inevitable conclusion of years and years of absolutely woeful mismanagement.

The club is ****ed! Absolutely ****ed! And any hope of it getting any better is now gone. I don’t know if I can even be arsed with it any more

We lost to a University Challenge side tonight, driving us down to 18th.

Did you see the game on Sky? Ehib looked lively when he came on, otherwise we looked lucky to get nil.

Did you see the game on Sky?

bbc updates I’m afraid, I don’t have Sky. Scumbag college were the cool guys, I seem to recall?

Another Greenwood in the offing?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0904/1403407-antony-denies-assault-claims-as-brazil-drop-united-star/

Well that’d be the icing on the cake.

It’s already pretty obvious that he’s not actually very good (he’s a one trick pony who everyone’s got the measure of) and we’ve hugely overpaid for him, so him being a hit handy with his fists would just round it all off.

Ten Hag keeps starting him yet when Garnacho came on for him on Sunday, he instantly had a huge impact and on a different day may have scored the winner. You could have left Antony out there all day with little chance of any meaningful contribution

Interview with Henderson on the athletic where he denies that he went to SA for the money. It was all about the project. Righto.

Yeah, I heard that pile of old bollocks on 5 live this morning.

You sold your soul to some murderers. That’s your prerogative, but spare us all the hand-wringing bullshit so as not to insult our intelligence please

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66725924

@binners – who’d have thought that would happen?

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The valuation of the club had ballooned because of the potential sale, it had inflated to 3 billion, the Qatari’s offered 5 billion anyway, Jim Radcliff 4 billion. The Glazers thought it was worth more even though all evidence said NO.

Now it is returning towards it’s true valuation.

The whole episode just shows that extremely rich people ie the Glazers, Jim Radcliff and the Qatari’s are **** idiots, they don’t owe their success to being brilliant or special, they owe it to being extremely lucky (see also Musk and Trump)

binners – who’d have thought that would happen?

I’ve not been this shocked since George Michael came out!

It was obvious right from the off that they weren’t serious. It was just an exercise in getting a valuation. They’ll now take the highest offer as the valuation and remortgage the club at ridiculous levels of interest, to that figure, loading the debt back onto the club, then pay themselves a couple of billion each

That’s assuming the fans don’t burn Old Trafford to the ground at the next home game.

Either way, the club is absolutely ****ed now any hope of seeing the back of those parasites is gone.

I suspect that like many lifelong fans, I’ve just had enough of the whole sorry saga now. When the Glazers took over, we all had season tickets, but one by one all my mates have not bothered renewing them. I only know one person who still has one. But then we’re what they politely refer to as ‘heritage’ fans. They’ll still sell out all the corporate hospitality to watch a disinterested, overpaid and mediocre side battle it out for that last Europa League spot

And then there’s this, as summed up perfectly by the Guardian today

Antony case shows Manchester United have not learned any lessons

Depressing

Problem is Antony and Greenwood have a high dollar value and that’s all the owners see.

Let’s not forget Sancho, they’ve basically taken a super car and turned it into an Allegro.

Mr Easter Island statue is picked got England before him now.

Let’s not forget Sancho, they’ve basically taken a super car and turned it into an Allegro.

That’s indeed a bizarre one for me… one of the most exciting teenagers of modern times… turned into a bench warmer !

It is indeed an interesting one – sounds similar to Dele Alli? Amazing talent but rumours of not being fit, which then create mental issues and they then spiral the physical. He was excluded from training camps (still a culture in football that he might ‘infect’ others??) and sent away on a specific program but the recent ETH statements and the counters don’t sound like he has the manager’s backing.

That’s indeed a bizarre one for me… one of the most exciting teenagers of modern times… turned into a bench warmer !

Unfortunately it’s indicative of the way the club does it’s business. Woo him and pursue him for two seasons, finally sign him for top dollar then leave him sat on the bench or play him out of position, then publicly slate him for not delivering

Donny Van de Beek is even more mystifying.

I’m amazed Rashford has stuck around, to be honest. He gets played out of position all the time to cover for the big holes in the squad

Antony starting in front of Garnacho? Martial playing as central striker despite not having scored since 1997, because we can’t get shut of him

Phil Jones being given a new 5 year contract then never playing? He’s now youth team coach apparently

35 year old Johnny Evans on a free from Leicester to shore up our threadbare defence?

Eric Bailly?

Harry ****ing Maguire on 200 grand a week and clearly going nowhere (in every sense)?

The list goes on and on and on

The whole thing is an utter shambles

ManU seem to be trying to outdo the Tory Party in a weekly competition to see who can shoot themselves in the foot most, and in the most different ways. So far this week it’s a score draw at 3-3 (Anthony, Sancho and Glazers stopping sale v RAAC, Gillian Keegan outburst, Sunak cutting school rebuilding budget). Still 2 days to go for either side.

ManU to win this in Fergie-time by offering Maguire a 3 year contract extension.

Nah, they re-sign Pogba for another club record fee.

I wouldn’t put it past them to do all those things then drop another bombshell to eclipse the lot.

What I can see is us having a season similar to Chelsea last year, marooned in the bottom half of the table, getting an absolute spanking off all the top teams (Brentford, Brighton…), then getting to January and the few decent players we have got thinking “**** this! I’m off!”

The Glazers deciding, apparently, they’re now not going to sell resulted in the biggest ever one day fall in the share price – down 18% yesterday.
Current valuation is c$3.2 billion.
Glazers reportedly think it’s worth c$10 billion.
Next time they try to sell I would be unsurprised if bidders said…any bid is conditional on our costs being fully reimbursed if the sale process is called off.

Something is worth what somebody else is prepared to pay for it

A simple rule of business they seemed to have failed to grasp

They’re just blinded by their limitless greed, which dictates everything they do and sadly everything that happens at the club

We’ve got Brighton at home on Saturday the 16th, 3 o clock kick off. A game we’ll likely lose (Mitoma and Co must be itching to get stuck into a central defensive pairing of Harry Maguire and Johnny Evans). I can imagine things will get a bit lively. Not that the Glazers dare come anywhere near Old Trafford, obviously

Can we just have a Man United thread? The daily soap opera, ineptitude and Binners’s rants cheer me up no end. A pity it features characters like Greenwood and Antony though.

There were rumours about Sancho’s attitude and training when with England being hit and miss. His best position is also on the left which is where Rashford plays. Fair play to Ten Hag, he’s not afraid to call the players out (Ronaldo, Rashford was dropped) and Sancho was not his signing either I guess. Antony must have some dirt on him though!

The most insulting, but depressingly accurate comment I’ve heard about United was in an absolutely scathing article in the Guardian which concluded that ‘it’s no longer a football club, it’s a theme park’

EDIT: I’ve just found it. It’s from 2 years ago but is more laughable now than ever

Glazers’ heritage-hawking risks making Manchester United a 90s theme park

a bonus trip to the Manchester United 1990s waxwork museum

Once again Citeh doing all the spending to buy the league

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66726456

It’s a relatively straightforward formula

1. Leave all your transfer dealing until the 59th minute of the eleventh hour

2. Panic and buy someone who wasn’t even on your radar until 5 minutes ago when his agent called and your present manager has never actually mentioned

3. Pay the already ludicrous transfer fee with 30-40 million stupidity tax added on due to point 1.

4. Give said unproven/overrated show pony a 7 year contract on 350 grand a week

5. Despair as he proves to be a complete donkey on the rare occasions when he’s not out injured

6. Watch him sit on the bench for years because only 3 clubs in the world can match his wages, and they’re not stupid enough to be remotely interested, so he’s going nowhere until he leaves on a free

7. Repeat…. over and over and over… in some instances with the same player

Hey, at least it’s not Lukaku

I breathed a sigh of relief when United didn’t buy Lyndon Dykes or Che Adams, we don’t need that kind of negative impact on our Scottish (?) assets. Too good for them anyway.

If it’s all about ManU, then not a lot of blame being thrown at Ten Hag, he’s had a huge budget, had a lot of talent to work with, and not really showing he knows how to get the best out of the team, or individuals.  For ManU to be better, they need a manager who can get more out of those already there, not just their own signings, he also seems to throw players under the bus when he’s not pleased with them, not a good thing if they don’t leave, as ManU are finding out.

Anyway… getting away from the car crash that is Man Yoo and on to another car crash

Jordon Henderson absolutely tying himself in knots when asked about would he be wearing rainbow laces again. Oh dear. He should really just stop digging and just say ‘I did if for the money and I couldn’t actually give a flying **** about the LGBTQ rights I made such a big deal of then immediately jettisoned when somebody waved some cash in front of me’

Erm… I don’t think the Saudis are that inclusive really?  Unless publicly flogging people for homosexuality is now deemed as ‘inclusive’

What an absolute shithouse that bloke is. I hope he enjoys picking up his blood money for playing in front of empty stadiums

Some eyebrow raising teams on that net spend list!

Arsenal, Spurs and Newcastle in the top 8 for very little return, in terms of actually winning anything. West Ham and Villa above Liverpool (their place on the list owes much to Herr Klopp and the Coutinho fee). Everton solidly in the top 15 and then European heavyweights Crystal Palace and Bournemouth ahead of Real and Bayern.

Oh and of course City have bought the league. ‘‘Twas ever thus! They’ve just done it better. Aided by some creative accounting 😝

re Jordan Henderson, you expect it from players like Ronaldo but someone like Henderson should really know much better.

Also when you are living in a place where people aren’t free should you respect that culture? **** no.

Uuuuf!

They just keep coming for Man Utd.

https://utddistrict.co.uk/manchester-united-apologise-after-inviting-convicted-paedophile-to-old-trafford-fixture/07/09/2023/