shirley cyclists are a clique anyway and mtbers are a derrivatve of that clique and STW is a clique within a clique, within a clique

Aside from Daves comment (above as I write this)

It’s interesting that you don’t see the difference, I wonder if I could be arsed to trawl your forum history I’d find you being able to plug your product and receiving the same preferential treatment?

If people ask, I reply. I don’t (edit:: as far as I can remember, recently) start threads (edit:: about my products). Can’t remember much promotion by these chaps. And do try to answer questions about “stuff”.

I also think Tony is lovely, have had a couple of beers with him, and my buddy Stu in Skipton says he’s sound too.
I’d love him to teach me how to do big jumps and when I get fixed (my achilles tendon is broken from running) I’d love to get down.

Slowrider. No.

We don’t actually get that many videos contributed, I hunt them out. I am always keen to support like minded companies /individuals, like Tony , when they contact me with suitable films though.

We’ve featured The Chop and Vain Vagrant as stand alone stories. I made that decision recognising the value of their difference and the debate they’d get going.

I wouldn’t describe that as regular promotion.

We don’t actually get that many videos contributed, I hunt them out. I am always keen to support like minded companies /individuals, like Tony , when they contact me with suitable films though.

Glad I haven’t got fingered* for that one I got you to plug the other week, Dave 😉

*i might have got fingered actually.

We don’t actually get that many videos contributed, I hunt them out. I am always keen to support like minded companies /individuals, like Tony , when they contact me with suitable films though.

How about the snowboarding crow? Can you get that in next week?

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7hiuXjXJEw&sns=tw[/video]

Though I showed my lad, who told me it went viral at 9oclock this morning of course he’d seen it.

Enjoyed it at the launch thing – will watch again soon. Not sure what all the moaning is about.

The product placement was surely deliberately over the top in a jokey way?

Was pleased to recognise the trails ridden too. 🙂

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Yeah, I’d heard that about you. 😀

Edited to reduce endless bitching

Edited due to previous post being edited

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How come not all midweek movies get their own staff approved thread? Is it because they don’t include multiple locals & buddies?

Want me to explain that to you again?

I’ve had a midweek mini movie featured. Can’t remember who was in it though

I only opened this thread to post a silly comment, but I have to chip in..
I really don’t get this silly argument..

If a mate of mine has tickets to an event or offers to get me into somewhere free through a work contact, that’s normal right?
Similarly, If a friend asks me to promote their business or event in the shop window – that’s what I do as a mate right..?

Are people kicking off here cos they don’t have the right mates or something..?

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c[/video]

Is this like one of those baby-oiled up Turkish wrestling threads?

But with glasses, tattoos and ginger hair?

Similarly, If a friend asks me to promote their business or event in the shop window – that’s what I do as a mate right..?

Indeed. Unless it was something you were embarrassed to be associated with, why on earth wouldn’t you?

We don’t actually get that many videos contributed

I sent one (got brushed)

Are people kicking off here cos they don’t have the right mates or something..?

It seems that way.

Cliques are mostly imaginary, and that gives them an enormous amount of power in the minds of those who feel hard done by or excluded by them.

My job puts me in and out of various cliques of a fledgling scene, and I occasionally see people b*tching about it, or get passive aggressive emails about it for not selecting someone’s work for a show. There’s an enormous amount of suspicion and paranoia from people who want to be friends with the “important” people, and I’m sometimes perceived as one of those, sometimes not, which gets really weird and interesting. I’m mostly perceived as approachable, but if I don’t like someone’s work, then from that point it’s often “because I’m in the clique“.

I used to feel excluded from some of these cliques too, until I realised that they’re mostly imaginary, some of the people I thought were in them actually don’t get on with or hang out with each other, etc. There’s no committee voting on things. What looks like a clique from the outside is actually really loose knit and porous. I think most of us experience them at their worst in our teens, when kids actually commit to the idea and reinforce it with awful dissembling bullsh*t. Most adults don’t behave like that, but groups still happen as a natural part of socialisation. Clique is a label applied to that by people who feel like outsiders, for whatever reason, and usually based on evidence flimsier than an asymmetric thong. Seeing cliques is a flipside of the stupid tribal behaviour we all fall into sometimes.

I didn’t see it, but if Mark deleted an earlier and perfectly inoffensive thread, that’s bad forum etiquette, but still his prerogative since it’s his forum. It’s not a clique- or PR-driven conspiracy though, FFS.

I did see Ed in the office this year. He came round to borrow a tool or some tyres or something and had a coffee. That was just before he did his Peaty video, which was about March time. I don’t think I’ve seen him since. Brant – well, I definitely saw him at Hebden Cinema for the Pantani film a month ago. And he waved at me last week too. That’s about it for real-world Brant/Ed/Singletrack integration that I can remember this summer.

DavidB – Member
We don’t actually get that many videos contributed
I sent one (got brushed)

If you mean your Highland 550 video, Dave. I was going to save running until the next issue of the magazine is out in a week or so with a story on the Highland 550. Unless you’d rather I didn’t?

I’ve now realised I’ve never actually seen Ed’s Peaty video, so I’m off to watch it.

Please do run it Chipps .. anything to stop others going through similar pain….

Product placement can be funny.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lgLYGBbDNs[/video]

I liked it.

And it looked a right Laff to make.

Can I have some beer?

i love lamp

Off topic post:

Dear STW moderators, I don’t live in the West Yorks area but I do like riding bikes. Can I please form part of your clique?

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NdJRsgNjvM[/video]

It makes me want tattoos and a goat and some lesbanums and a mexican wrestling mask and some Chromag stuff and beer and a Bern helment and a beard and a Santa Cruz and some Vulpine socks.

Just checking in to make sure that there will now be an outrage about the new This is Peaty’ video featuring product placement and getting a post of it’s own on the front page?

Dear STW moderators, I don’t live in the West Yorks area but I do like riding bikes. Can I please form part of your clique?

None of our moderators live in West Yorkshire

None of our moderators live in West Yorkshire

[stw contrary mode]

That’s very West Yorkshirist of you.

I demand to know what’s wrong with people from that area that they can’t be moderators!

[/stw contrary mode]

I know I am late to the party here, and not entering into the clique competition, but what the hell.

1) That vid was great, really enjoyed it because it was different and creative. As opposed to 80ish % of mid-week movies which are mostly the same dull skid, jump, berm, drift, enduro boring shite (used to be good, but now every bloody vid is identical)
2) on that topic, mid week movies has got really dull. At least when Matt did it, there was always a random but interesting skate or BMX vid at the end, and there seemed to be more diversity in the vids (see comment above)

and, FWIW, great to read Matt back in the mag.

Kev

what a miserable bunch you lot are. I liked it.