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  • Calling Swansea/South Wales Bikers. Help with trail objecters.
  • Premier Icon IdleJon
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    As some of you may know, waymarked trails have been planned in Clyne Valley on the west of Swansea, and work actually started a few months ago, carried out by Back on Track, Rowan Sorrel’s boys.

    Unfortunately work had to be interrupted but is due to start again soon. Unfortunately once again, the local council has received letters of objection.

    I would ask for anyone with an interest in riding in this area to send an email in support of the trails to planning@swansea.gov.uk

    Maybe some of the things to mention:

    •will encourage tourism to the area
    •positive involvment of local community
    •positive effects on local youth
    •sustainability of trails
    •the consideration of other users in the overall plan – walkers & equestrians
    •considerations of environmentally sesitive areas

    For those of you who aren’t familiar with Clyne, it is a wooded valley that has been used by MTBs since they were first around. It is used widely by walkers, the occasional horse rider, dogwalkers etc. Plenty of flora and fauna – it’s a pleasant place to spend time. It’s worth a visit with your bike if you are in the area. Find a local to show you the best trails!

    As far as I’m aware there isn’t a major conflict going on between users. Everyone gets along fairly peacefully.

    To give you an idea of the tone of the objections:

    I am not anti bikers – in fact our business(es)…. have a number of visitors who stay and go to nationally recognised centres at Brechfa and Afan Argoed. However, any development should be in the right place and with the right management – Clyne Valley is not the right place

    I’d ask where better to put waymarked trails than a wood that is heavily used by MTBs currently and can bring visitors and their all-important revenue.

    All support would be appreciated as a lot of work would be wasted if the NIMBYs get their way.

    Premier Icon z1ppy
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    hmmm I know some-one in Swansea planning (off-hand this wouldn’t be there area of expertise), may see if they know anything about this.

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    z1ppy, are you on the MTBPigs forum? If so there’s more info on there.

    Premier Icon z1ppy
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    nope, never heard of it, i’m midlands based though, but will take look.
    Have emailed my friend, will see what comes back.

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Ah, I assumed you were local!

    Premier Icon z1ppy
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    Nahh, but even the Welsh occasionnally make exceptions, and have English friends 😉 …..ok …..acquaintances

    Got a link to anything relevent on the mtbpig site, am interested, but nothing jumping out at me.

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    The juicy bits are on the private board so that we can make, ahem, frank and honest observations on the information we have.

    Too many people from the opposite camp read the public board to make sure that we aren’t out murdering squirrels! 🙄 Or building trails where we shouldn’t.

    Premier Icon brakeswithface
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    Thanks for flagging this up, I’ll definitely send them something.

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    cheers brakes….

    are you Nick who rode with us last year, btw?

    Premier Icon z1ppy
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    bugger, my friend is currently off ill, so can’t shed any light for a while yet. 🙁

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Basically there is a small campaign being orchestrated by a couple who are well known in Swansea.

    Strangely, they are heavily involved in tourism sites – the sort of things that articulate, literate visitors with disposable income may be interested in. Like us. They actually own holiday cottages right in the midle of the Clyne trails but seem unable to understand that MTBers might want to find somewhere to stay and that they, the main objecters could make money out of nationally advertised waymarked trails.

    One of the resident’s associations is also sending a letter of objection which specifically says that MTBs should maybe not be allowed to use the main tarmac cycle path if they have trails elsewhere. This is how completely irrational this is becoming.

    Premier Icon midlifecrashes
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    I have holidayed in Mumbles and explored Clyne, I’ll do you an email. Are the folk from Clyne Farm where they have the climbing wall etc positive, could be another string to their bow doing guided rides. An alternative end to the Gower Way for MTBers through the valley might be nice too, as would signed alternative routes for bikes on the footpath bits of the Way.

    Premier Icon spev
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    Erm….. No , clyne farm are one of the principle objectors. I have a copy of the email they sent in objecting to the trails and they seem at odds with everything. I feel that they view the woods as their own and would like to keep it as a tranquil haven for their guests at the cottage (don’t get me started on the cottage)

    Premier Icon backhander
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    They actually advertise MTBing as an activity!
    Best avoided I think.
    What are the reviews like on tripadvisor? 😈

    Premier Icon brakeswithface
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    IdleJon: I’m guessing you’re with MTBPigs? If so must have been another Nick, though I did bump into you all outside the Woodman once I think!

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Are the folk from Clyne Farm where they have the climbing wall etc positive,
    As spev said, they are the main objecters.

    A quote from a report in the local paper:

    “There has been antisocial behaviour with mountain bikers jumping down the drive and the path.”

    http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/notice-police-number-report-yobs/story-12427686-detail/story.html

    Notice the use of ‘the drive’ when she actually means the bridleway/access track to the cottage. The track isn’t her property.

    backhander – Member
    What are the reviews like on tripadvisor?

    Lol, that’s not the first time that’s been suggested.

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Seeing as a typhoon has hit Swansea, there may be a few riders wasting time on their computers rather than getting wet. So I’ll bump this…..

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    I’ll bump this one last time…..

    Premier Icon davidjey
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    Dashed off an email. Here’s hoping it does some good. I live in Cwmafan now but lived in Swansea for three years and used Clyne quite a bit. Rode with MTBPigs occasionally – nice bunch but a bit too fast downhill for me 😉

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    nice bunch but a bit too fast downhill for me

    You have genuinely made me LOL!!

    I probably haven’t ridden with you so I’ll pass the compliment on….

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Saves Moos video:

    http://cdn1.video.mporatrons.com/mporaPlayer3.03062011.1645.swf?id=p0Cc9SuV4&ext=1&site=live

    The Moos jumps at the top of Clyne valley are now under threat. They have featured in Dirt and are some of the most beautifully constructed jumps ever seen.

    The council had given permission, but it has now withdrawn it and nobody is allowed to use the jumps. If any rider is seen on the jumps, the council have threatened to bulldoze the lot.

    Similarly, the slalom jumps which are further down the hill and seem to have been there forever.

    Premier Icon AnalogueAndy
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    Thanks for the bump. Not spotted this before. Email sent. Another one who holidays on Gower with the family at least once during the year, I found Clyne Woods a couple of years back and enjoy discovering what you guys have been up to.

    Premier Icon maxlite
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    email sent Jon

    Cheers

    Steve

    Premier Icon IdleJon
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    Ta Steve, how are you? I’ve heard that Freddy (and Matt) have been spotted riding with the Wheelers, and dropping Dave M?

    You should meet us down at Clyne of a Thursday – and enjoy a pint afterwards….

    Premier Icon loughor
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    Message sent. Originally from Swansea, always ride in Clyne when I get home. Good luck with the struggle.

    Premier Icon maxlite
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    Hi Jon, yeah I’m fine, work most nights now in my new delivery driver role (need the money)!!!

    Freddy and Matt are often out with the Wheelers…and Dave thats another story!

    Moos jumps are a work of art……..maybe they deserve an art’s grant??, will try and get down to Clyne if I have a Thursday off.

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