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  • Boston Dynamics (aka All Hail Our New Robotic Overlords!) 2.0
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    multi21
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    😬

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    JasonDS
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    The feral ginger beast of a cat, that seems to have adopted me, would drop that metal mickey in an instant.

    The Robot is pretty cool though, atomic thunder-busters.?

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    Kramer
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    **** me, the way that thing gets up is straight out of Terminator.

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    Northwind
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    But what are the scottish applications?

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    mashr
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    NorthwindFull Member
    But what are the scottish applications?

    Glasgow pub bouncer

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    MSP
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    But what are the scottish applications?

    Did you not watch the video? Seams perfectly adapted to lying in a Glaswegian gutter on a Saturday night, until revived by the smell of kebab it awakens and continues its alcohol and fast food hunt.

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    funkmasterp
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    I think @Northwind is referring to the YouTube video of a Boston Dynamics robot with a Scottish overdub. It is fantastic but not suitable for work or kids.

    That video up there is creepy. Why make the head move out of sync? Jus makes it seem more murderous. Love how they’ve made it sound like an Orange 5 though.

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    somafunk
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    All these mechadroids should be fitted with a pair of pressure sensitive swinging balls, then we wouldn’t have to worry about them taking over the world as a sharp kick to the nuts would floor them helping our escape.

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    supernova
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    That’s our dystopian future, right there.

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    matt_outandabout
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    **** me, the way that thing gets up is straight out of Terminator.

    As it looked at the camera I swear this is what it sees:

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    HoratioHufnagel
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    If it’s anything like an ebike motor a quick blast with a pressure washer will see it off.

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    mashr
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    I’d read rumours that Atlas was on his way out as the funding had been cut. Now almost wish that had been true…

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    Northwind
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    The creepiness is pretty fascinating… There’s been endless studies and research into human/robot interaction, and it influences design a ton. There’s a reason humanoid robots usually move pretty much like humans- it’s not optimal, but it’s more familiar. Having them definitely have a front and back and similar movement restrictions makes them more intuitively predictable for people working around them, you can predict more easily where it’s likely to move next, what it’s doing. And it just makes it more comfortable to deal with them, removes a ton of the scare factor. But it actually holds back the design and capability. Bipedal robots in human/robot shared spaces are always likely to be less overall good than we could make them in a robot-only or robot-and-robot-expert space, because they’ll compromise so they don’t scare your gran or so that you don’t constantly get in its way.

    This one’s thrown a load of that out, and the result is really unsettling. But also harder to interact with- which way is it facing? Both ways. What way will it go next? Who knows. Especially since they’ve incorporated the “change direction” with it actually moving so it’s not even like it reverses the legs then moves, it steps “backwards” then after a step it’s going “fowards”. Makes for a much better robot at the expense of making it weirder but also creates problems like- well, it shouldn’t bump into you or step on you because it’ll be full of sensors, but if you get in its way then it has to stop.

    But that’s partly because when they were rolling out asimo and stuff like that, the whole thing was weird so they were fighting that and trying to make them comprehensible and acceptable. Making them a bit less competent helped with that too, that’s a whole fascinating field of study, humans really like clumsy robots, noisy robots, robots that look a bit DIY. We want them to have flashing lights and go biddibiddibiddi. (They had an interactivity testbed at my old work where they went through and replaced a load of stepper motors and controllers with newer, quieter ones, with no other changes, expecting positive results as it meant it wasn’t making constant horrible screeches and robot wasp noises- but the less motor noise it made the weirder and faker it seemed, the interactivity survey scores got worse)

    But now as we get more used to it, you can be weirder without such extreme reactions. It still ABSOLUTELY had to have a head or a face though, turns out humans just don’t know what to do with a robot if it doesn’t have a head or a face, it massively undermines the whole thinking process. You’re more likely to be surprised when they move, more likely to have panic or fight-or-flight reactions. But at hte same time, uncanny valley means it’s better to have, say, a screen with a smiley face than it is to have hte really interactive, emotive human-analog faces that they’ve tried. We’re used to interacting with screens, after all. And having it on a head scores far better than having it just on the torso, that causes a lot of bad response.

    This’ll keep changing the more used we get to it, biped robot design’s basically as flexible as the human brain. It’s just… super nerdy interesting imo. Especially since the major reason for this sort of flexible bipedal robot is so that it can take people’s jobs without rebuilding factories and warehouses and such 😉

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    funkmasterp
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    I preferred the Scottish model. Looked friendlier than that freaky abomination.

    airvent
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    I mean, the video could be CGI rather than an actual robot being filmed?

    Sounds daft but CGI is incredibly convincing now

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    dyna-ti
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    Give one of them a gun loaded with blanks and see if it tries to wipe out its makers.

    It’s bound to be given one sooner or later.

    There’s a reason humanoid robots usually move pretty much like humans

    Aye, that Glaswegian inspired vid, it looks like it’s shat itself.

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    sirromj
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    <rhetorical question> Can we have a robot dog thread? </rhetorical question>

    retrorick
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    I watched the atlas goodbye video yesterday and wondered what was going to replace it.

    I await any future videos with interest. Plus a scrap between the Boston dynamics robot and the Tesla robot. 🤖🤖

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    Poopscoop
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    Can’t be long before we see those on the battlefield or keeping domestic populations in check.

    I find it a terrifying future. Money to be made though so as usual, humanity will just plough ahead.

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    AdamT
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    I run a robotics group, so very much up for a robotic dog thread!! 😀

    funkmasterp
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    Can’t be long before we see those on the battlefield or keeping domestic populations in check.

    Doesn’t look that stable when it is waddling off tbh. Would be easier to knock it over or smack its head clean off with a bit of 2×4. It’ll be a long time before the robots take over

    Poopscoop
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    Doesn’t look that stable when it is waddling off tbh. Would be easier to knock it over or smack its head clean off with a bit of 2×4. It’ll be a long time before the robots take over

    As it is, I agree but there is a definite acceleration in development and I see AI only accelerating it further.

    Ironically it’s probably battery tech that will be the limiting factor for a while rather than all the other complexities.

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    HoratioHufnagel
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    The pace of development is crazy. There was an early video of how they trained the robot dog to walk on slippery surfaces in a simulation with reinforcement learning…

    HoratioHufnagel
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    I think this is the one that inspired the above scottish one…

    squirrelking
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    Yeah, old Atlas was hydraulic, this is fully electric Atlas. Going to probably have the same development curve.

    Thing is, human compatible robots make sense. They can use the same tools meaning no costly custom stuff. I can see them being particularly useful in any industry or setting where there are hazardous environments. If you could harden them against radiation then imagine the implications for cleanups and decommissioning, even maintenance.

    Also agree the movement is disconcerting but that’s also a massive benefit in cramped conditions.

    didnthurt
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    stevie750
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    Is that Ronald Villiers, Widdecombe and pump

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    thepurist
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    When will they change its name to Daneel Olivaw?

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